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12:46 PM on 04/05/13 
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well, ive just found that recording vocals or piano with one microphone never gives me the results i want, it always sounds too thin and not as personal/intimate in the recording. in my recordings i can't even pick out the notes a piano is playing unless it's got a presence on both sides of the mix; usually i'll pan the lower notes and the body to one side, and then turn the higher notes and clarity up a little bit louder and pan it to the other side (or more toward the center) so the melodies can be heard. acoustic guitar, i'm still toying with -- sometimes it definitely sounds better double-tracked instead of double-mic'd.

i tend to have very layered electric guitars, so recording all these electric guitar tracks and having only one mic for one track on other instruments, the guitar just kind of swallows it up.

PM me something you've done if you don't mind, I'd like to have a listen before I comment on that.

what's the difference? does it represent the guitars through different EQ ranges?

They have fairly similar frequency response, however the e835 doesn't roll off lower frequencies as sharply as the 57. The result is a little more access to the low-end of a signal.

I've always been happy with the way an SM57 picks up my guitars, once i find that off axis sweet spot (for me it's usually at a 35 degree angle, pointing to the bottom edge of the speaker). so i haven't felt a NEED to upgrade to a Sennheiser... but i'm sure using both microphones has awesome results.

It's not really an upgrade as they are right around the same price point. But from the sounds of it, you could use a few of them to add to your arsenal in the event you do want to begin recording your own drums, or even just want a different flavor when layering.

it only has 2 inputs, if i were to record drums i would want the full 8 for direct mic'ing, overheads, and room mics. hell i don't even have enough microphones for that. plus i don't really have a good, isolated, confined recording space for drums anyhow. anywhere is usually good for electrics since they're mic'd close up with a unidirectional microphone, and i've found that almost any living room with wood floors is great for vocals and acoustics. but drums seems like it'd be a little more complex if you want the right reverberance.

Ok that makes sense, I didn't read the specs and thought it was 8 ins. There are options to do that but that would involve upgrading your digital workstation.

You can make effective drum recordings with one mic if the room is right...but that's the key. Where I will disagree with you is 'any room with wood floors' being good for vox/acoustics - perhaps in your experience that is true but in mine, it's not the case.
03:01 PM on 04/05/13 
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PM me something you've done if you don't mind, I'd like to have a listen before I comment on that.

i have something perfect -- acoustic guitars, an upright piano, vocals and harmonies -- each recorded with two microphones at the same time, in a large living room with wood floors. it'll be in your inbox.

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They have fairly similar frequency response, however the e835 doesn't roll off lower frequencies as sharply as the 57. The result is a little more access to the low-end of a signal.

that makes sense, and listening to my demos i know what you mean. but the bass melodies are often a very important part of my electric music -- in my opinion, most albums don't have basslines that are discernible enough. this means, throughout the recording process, I am doing my best to make room for the bass, so i don't mind if the lower frequencies are lost on my electric guitar recordings -- i'm looking for those to come through more in the upper midrange/low treble, and im sure the guy who's mixing the album would just apply a high-pass filter and eliminate most of those lower ranges anyway.

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It's not really an upgrade as they are right around the same price point. But from the sounds of it, you could use a few of them to add to your arsenal in the event you do want to begin recording your own drums, or even just want a different flavor when layering.

i'll have to do some comparisons to decide which mics to get when i'm at that point. i really like AKG D-550s on toms, and they're not that expensive either. i'm interested to know more about your drum microphone preferences though.

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Ok that makes sense, I didn't read the specs and thought it was 8 ins. There are options to do that but that would involve upgrading your digital workstation.

im planning to get the 24-track version of the same Tascam model soon, which has 8 inputs.

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You can make effective drum recordings with one mic if the room is right...but that's the key. Where I will disagree with you is 'any room with wood floors' being good for vox/acoustics - perhaps in your experience that is true but in mine, it's not the case.

what's needed as far as room treatment, size, and shape for clean, concise drum recordings? i don't know jack diddly squat about recording drums other than what i could easily read from the internet.
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