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10:11 AM on 03/21/12 
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CoheedForever
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It makes me sad thinking about how much this is going to blow. I hate to make judgments before hand, but I think it's justified.
12:57 PM on 03/21/12 
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i want to punch Michael Bay in the face so bad right now

seriously, alien turtles??!
09:14 PM on 03/21/12 
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Reaction from Peter Laird, co-creator of TMNT:

I have had several requests from TMNT fans during this past week to comment on the idea of the Turtles being "reimagined" as aliens for the upcoming TMNT movie to be produced by Michael Bay. A few people -- who don't seem to understand that I am no longer in control of the property -- want me to stop this, somehow. Obviously, I can't do that, even if I wanted to.

But I would actually encourage TMNT fans to swallow the "chill pill" Mr. Bay recently suggested they take, and wait and see what might come out of this seemingly ill-conceived plan. It's possible that with enough truly creative brainpower applied to this idea, it might actually work. I'm not saying it's probable, or even somewhat likely… but it IS possible.

However, as I have pondered this further, I have realized that in one way it IS truly a genius notion. Let me explain…
Over the years, I have made no secret of my distaste for what I consider to be the weak, facile, creatively bankrupt idea which can be summed up like this:

"If FOUR Ninja Turtles are good, then FIVE (or more) Ninja Turtles MUST be better!"

It was in large part this brain-dead notion that led to the creation of the execrable "Venus de Milo" character in the blessedly short-lived live action TV series "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation". And I can't tell you how many times we got mail in the early years of the Turtles from people who thought it was simply an amazing idea to do a "fifth Turtle", and how many times those same people suggested that this fifth Turtle be named "Picasso". And many times, the brilliant idea to explain this extra Turtle was that, instead of there being just four pet shop turtles in that glass bowl in the origin story, there were really FIVE.

Sigh.

I'll admit -- I have played with the idea of more Turtles myself, a few times. There was the character of "Kirby", the "fifth Turtle" that Kevin Eastman and I came up with for one of the several movie ideas which never came to fruition. And I created the "Super Turtles" in Volume 4 of the TMNT comics published by Mirage… and they eventually appeared in one episode of the 4Kids animated TMNT TV series.

But…

… in both those instances, I was careful to make these Turtles not just MORE of the same, i.e. just extra TMNT. In both of the above cases, the extra Turtles were from other dimensions… and the Super Turtles, especially, were VERY different from the Ninja Turtles. I don't remember all the details of the work we did on that "Kirby the Fifth Turtle" thing, but I DO remember being adamant that if we were going to agree to the idea of a "fifth Turtle", it would have to be something other than the harebrained "there was an extra Turtle in the bowl, etc." idea.

Is that too fine a line? Yeah, maybe… but to my way of thinking, anyway, it is a CLEAR line.

Anyway, to get back to the "TMNT are aliens" thing -- the reason I say it could be a "genius" idea is that -- for the first time -- someone has come up with a way to have as many freakin' Turtles as they want. I mean, if the TMNT are actually members of an alien race, there could be a whole PLANET of them! Joy. -- PL
09:17 PM on 03/21/12 
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Glad he addressed it and proved Bay's not really working with the creators in the first place.
03:28 AM on 03/22/12 
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Glad he addressed it and proved Bay's not really working with the creators in the first place.

To be fair he said he was working with "one" of the creators, not both of them. The whole situation is bullshit however I feel this way only because it's bay and his movies seem to be created for the sole purpose of $. Then again its tmnt for Christ sake they have been absent of artistic merit forever and our childhood memories have just suppressed this fact. I mean what six year old didn't find the vanilla ice "go ninja go ninja go" rap as their equivalent to dr dre's the chronic. This reboot is meant for the new era of youth and I'm cool with that. The old movies are to outdated to grab the interest of today's elementary market, and whether it be aliens or mutants I don't think anyone should be deprived of a bunch of weapon wielding turtles take on shredder and co. Yeah it would be awesome to see Paul Thomas Anderson direct or produce a tmnt reboot but we all know with today's market more focused on effects
03:30 AM on 03/22/12 
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Glad he addressed it and proved Bay's not really working with the creators in the first place.

To be fair he said he was working with "one" of the creators, not both of them. The whole situation is bullshit however I feel this way only because it's bay and his movies seem to be created for the sole purpose of $. Then again its tmnt for Christ sake they have been absent of artistic merit forever and our childhood memories have just suppressed this fact. I mean what six year old didn't find the vanilla ice "go ninja go ninja go" rap as their equivalent to dr dre's the chronic. This reboot is meant for the new era of youth and I'm cool with that. The old movies are to outdated to grab the interest of today's elementary market, and whether it be aliens or mutants I don't think anyone should be deprived of a bunch of weapon wielding turtles take on shredder and co. Yeah it would be awesome to see Paul Thomas Anderson direct or produce a tmnt reboot but we all know with today's market more focused on effects than storytelling that this is more in bays or say a peter bergs realm.
08:56 PM on 03/22/12 
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The changes they are making to it are kinda weird . Alien race??
09:04 PM on 03/22/12 
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To be fair he said he was working with "one" of the creators, not both of them. The whole situation is bullshit however I feel this way only because it's bay and his movies seem to be created for the sole purpose of $. Then again its tmnt for Christ sake they have been absent of artistic merit forever and our childhood memories have just suppressed this fact. I mean what six year old didn't find the vanilla ice "go ninja go ninja go" rap as their equivalent to dr dre's the chronic. This reboot is meant for the new era of youth and I'm cool with that. The old movies are to outdated to grab the interest of today's elementary market, and whether it be aliens or mutants I don't think anyone should be deprived of a bunch of weapon wielding turtles take on shredder and co. Yeah it would be awesome to see Paul Thomas Anderson direct or produce a tmnt reboot but we all know with today's market more focused on effects

What? In what world would Paul Thomas Anderson rebooting TMNT be at all awesome? He's a genius, but there is nothing positive he could bring to TMNT because his brow is raised much higher than TMNT needs to be lifted.
09:05 PM on 03/22/12 
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This will suck. Fuck Michael Bay.
02:08 AM on 03/23/12 
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Great read, he's one of my favorite writers. Best avatar too.
04:42 AM on 03/23/12 
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To be fair he said he was working with "one" of the creators, not both of them. The whole situation is bullshit however I feel this way only because it's bay and his movies seem to be created for the sole purpose of $. Then again its tmnt for Christ sake they have been absent of artistic merit forever and our childhood memories have just suppressed this fact. I mean what six year old didn't find the vanilla ice "go ninja go ninja go" rap as their equivalent to dr dre's the chronic. This reboot is meant for the new era of youth and I'm cool with that. The old movies are to outdated to grab the interest of today's elementary market, and whether it be aliens or mutants I don't think anyone should be deprived of a bunch of weapon wielding turtles take on shredder and co. Yeah it would be awesome to see Paul Thomas Anderson direct or produce a tmnt reboot but we all know with today's market more focused on effects
Basically. There's been plenty of rubbish associated with this franchise for a long time, and at the end of the day it's just a cartoon that I liked when I was a kid. One terrible film based on it wouldn't be much skin off my nose these days.
07:36 AM on 03/23/12 
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michael bay you fuck. You need to spill ooze on turtles, not have them take a space ship to earth. Ugh.
01:42 PM on 03/23/12 
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Alright... People probably can calm down. From Jonathan Liebesman:

“Look, it’s so funny—if everyone was such a die-hard fan, they would know that the TCRI canisters where the ooze comes from. That is alien ooze. Now I’m not saying what Michael said is exactly what the movie is, because we’re sitting in a room now figuring everything out. So we don’t know, but we are like Michael said: we’re expanding it, and the expansion will be true to the mythology. I promise you: fans will love it.”

“Whatever mythology we’re building on or expanding is coming from that guy, Kevin Eastman’s head, who created the Turtles in the first place. And so everything will tie in with the mythology; fans will be extremely excited with what we’re coming up with. A lot of it is stuff he’s wanted to do for a long time, but just hasn’t had the opportunity because now we have the budget and things on this film to expand it in the right way. And so, I’m happy that everyone is extremely passionate, and they will not be disappointed. It’s all coming from the best possible place for this franchise.”

I kinda figured Bay probably didn't know what he was talking about if they were truly working with Eastman or Laird. It's likely that Krang (or Utroms in some form) will be a part of the movies because they were the ones that created the ooze in the comics.
01:47 PM on 03/23/12 
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don't necessarily agree 100% but think it's a valid point
02:25 PM on 03/23/12 
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Michael Bay: Raping childhood heroes, one show at a time.



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