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12:07 AM on 06/18/09
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just too much auto tune for me
...really? Theres autotune, yah. But it's not so much as say I See Stars, and definately not because he's a terrible vocalist. The autotune use is pretty rare. What you think is autotune on parts is probably the harmonies they lay down where he's singing it in 3 different ranges, which is a tremendous feat from a vocalist, to be able to hit the low middle and high range of a song. Kyle is an extremely talented vocalist who sounds the same live and on the album. To discredit the whole album because a COUPLE parts use autotune for effects, when 85% of the song has not a spot of autotune artifacts, I think your claim of too much autotune is a bit rediculous.

And that analysis is not from a listeners standpoint, I'm an apprentice audio engineer at Harmonie Park recording studio, and part of my lessons are to study what effects are used on vocal tracks. The autotune on their tracks is few and far between, what you're hearing is a talented vocalist who knows how to hit his ranges for an awesome effect.

EDIT: I should add, I realize Dreams is riddled with autotune. So don't bring up that song.
11:35 AM on 06/18/09
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true that kyle is a great singer.

HOWEVER it would be silly to say that 85% of the EP doesn't use autotune.
of course, its not as rediculously overdriven like Attack Attack. but its still there.
that's just how songs are recorded these days.
so yes. about 100% of the EP has auto tune on it along with most of your other favourite bands that are like them.

some people don't like the sound of autotune. and that's okay. its not for everyone & every band. but most bands use it.
When I was refering to 85% no autotune, I meant not noticeable autotune for effect, like during the electronic parts how you can tell autotune is going on. Obviously I know that autotune is used on all audio tracks to make them sound perfect, that's just common practice.

And I have seen them live, and I have heard their old stuff. Seeing as I'm from the same area they are, I obviously have known about them for awhile, since the pre-wcar days, when they were This Emergency. While it's true Joey Sturgis did do alot of work in their writing proess to help them, they are each talented in their own rights. Last time I saw kyle he hit all the notes flawlessly, so perhaps you just saw them on an offnight.

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