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11:15 AM on 08/23/12 
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koryoreo
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This is a big blow, but it's not that bad. UFC 152 in Toronto was a weak card and Jones-Machida 2 makes the card much stronger. It's actually a much better card than UFC 151 or 152 would have been without the injury. That being said, fuck Greg Jackson. Jones have easily destroyed Sonnen and saved UFC the embarrassment of canceling a PPV for the first time ever.
11:18 AM on 08/23/12 
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Ha, Dana is pissed and said this changes the relationship with Jon Jones. Uh-oh. Fighting Chael on 8 days notice is a huge advantage for him and he wouldn't do it. This just fuels my increasing dislike for this guy.

Do agree that this makes 152 better though.
11:22 AM on 08/23/12 
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Dana is just killing Jones right now.

UFCTonight: Jones has been a champion that hasn't been very popular - Dana White

MikeChiappetta: Dana White says he and Lorenzo Fertitta are "disgusted" in Jones and his decision not to fight.

and lol....

arielhelwani: Dana: Chael said tell Jon Jones there wont be any spinning back fists in this fight. Chael Sonnen only falls down once.
11:22 AM on 08/23/12 
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Eh, I'm not mad at anyone in this situation. Can't get made at Hendo for getting injured and I can't get mad at Jones for not wanting to fight in a championship fight with 8 days notice.

I feel like they are trying to bully Jones and put all the blame on him. 8 days short notice is a BIG deal for a championship bout.


Edit: Proud to have my 3000th post in this thread.
11:23 AM on 08/23/12 
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what a puss

lost alot of respect for Jon Jones
11:24 AM on 08/23/12 
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Sonnen's spinning backfist line is perfect.
11:25 AM on 08/23/12 
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Eh, I'm not mad at anyone in this situation. Can't get made at Hendo for getting injured and I can't get mad at Jones for not wanting to fight in a championship fight with 8 days notice.

I feel like they are trying to bully Jones and put all the blame on him. 8 days short notice is a BIG deal for a championship bout.


Edit: Proud to have my 3000th post in this thread.

But isn't Jones unstoppable? Jones has been prepping for how long now? Jones would have an advantage with or without 8 days notice.

You're a fighter. You train to fight. Doesn't matter who they put in front of you, go out there and do it.

Not saying you're wrong, btw. Just how I feel about it in general.
11:26 AM on 08/23/12 
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I feel like Jones would have had a relatively easy time with Chael, so I don't see why he was so quick to turn it down. I guess he respects Chael more than I thought.

If it would have been Machida, I could see him not wanting to fight so quickly. That's a lot harder of a style to prepare for (even if he's done it before).
11:29 AM on 08/23/12 
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cause him and greg jackson are scared of chael. simple as that

if they thought it would be a breeze, which it wouldn't, then they would take it
11:30 AM on 08/23/12 
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He's just being smart with his career. He might get some backlash now, but he won't have a loss because he took a fight on 8 days notice.
11:31 AM on 08/23/12 
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arielhelwani: Dana says if Jon refuses to fight Lyoto he'll have an even worse conference call later today.

arielhelwani: Dana calls this one of the most selfish, disgusting decisions he's ever seen.

also this one speaks volumes to me.

arielhelwani: Dana: good for you Jon Jones that you have money but there's a bunch of guys that needed to fight to feed their families.
11:33 AM on 08/23/12 
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i dont see how it is a disadvantage to jon jones who is ready to fight. chael isnt. being 'smart' would be to take the fight and put chael out of contention before he stomps forrest and is the next in line
11:37 AM on 08/23/12 
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arielhelwani: Dana says if Jon refuses to fight Lyoto he'll have an even worse conference call later today.

arielhelwani: Dana calls this one of the most selfish, disgusting decisions he's ever seen.

also this one speaks volumes to me.

arielhelwani: Dana: good for you Jon Jones that you have money but there's a bunch of guys that needed to fight to feed their families.

That bolded part totally made me realize how selfish this decision is. It's not only terrible for the sport, it's devastating for fighters who were depending on a paycheck. Jones doesn't have to worry because he's rich and fighting 2 weeks later. Most of these guys will probably end up waiting much longer for a paycheck that they need more than Mr. Jones.
11:40 AM on 08/23/12 
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He's just being smart with his career. He might get some backlash now, but he won't have a loss because he took a fight on 8 days notice.

Coming off of a DUI I think he owes the UFC a favor. This does nothing but hurt his career is the long run. A second fight with Machida does nothing for his legacy compared to his refusal to fight Chael and now being the one fighter who is solely responsible for the canceling of an entire PPV. I bet you PPV companies are absolutely pissed right now at the UFC.
11:51 AM on 08/23/12 
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Yes, by far the worst part is screwing over all of the other fighters on the card. They must all feel awful right now knowing that their fight schedules are being fucked with, they're potentially losing money, etc.... and Jones is doing absolutely nothing to try and help. It's not like it's JUST 8 days notice... he's had a full training camp. He should be ready for a fight.



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