Can someone please explain to me what TB's beef with Apple is anyway?

Wow, thats interesting.

Originally Posted by [Brendan]

Can someone please explain to me what TB's beef with Apple is anyway?

Reading what I posted should be all the explanation you need. Tony wants certain terms and agreements to be met on Apple's end in exchange for the label's albums on iTunes and Apple isn't willing to comply.

"As a human being - congratulations on beating cancer last year. Take Care."
thats awesome, but i can't decide whether he is a cocky bastard or not because i never really thought of who was biggest independent label. hmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Frank Giaramita

As a human being - congratulations on beating cancer last year. Take Care.

What an asshole! I love how he said he was the 1 independent label about 300 times. If I were the man who just put out a record by Aiden I wouldn't be so cocky. He thinks hes "God of Music".

with that cocky attitude he wont be #1 for very long, fans will stop buying. Look where a cocky attitude got Yellowcard.

Originally Posted by birdman

with that cocky attitude he wont be #1 for very long, fans will stop buying. Look where a cocky attitude got Yellowcard.

Yellowcard only wrote one good song - thats why no one likes them.

He's such a dick.

No band should ever sign to Victory, all the ones that get caught up in it(unless they're Hawthorne Heights, great guys, but won't hear a bad thing about Victory) hate it and try to get out.

Actually Mr. Brummel, Disney is the #1 independent label in the country/world. Good luck topping them...

Originally Posted by xeightoh3xx

What an asshole! I love how he said he was the 1 independent label about 300 times. If I were the man who just put out a record by Aiden I wouldn't be so cocky. He thinks hes "God of Music".

And I was thinking Epitaph were the biggest independant label, well at least one of them.

yeah, if your label is for the fans, then just put your albums on iTunes. Seriously, I am tired of seeing all these teenieboppers with their playlists of "GET HAWTHORNE HEIGHTSSZZZ ON ITUNESSSZZZ 0MGZZZ!!!". Be there for your fans.

haha this is the fakest shit ive ever read. its such an attempt and making Tony look like a BAMF that is too punk to take such a small venture opportunity from a big corporate leader. "Ew, I dont want our music on iTunes, i want Hawthorne Heights to have the next 'U2 inspired' iPod!!!1!!" Shut the fuck up Tony. You are such a piece of shit, it makes me sick. And if he did make that ridiculous, sarcastic remark about beating cancer, someone remind me to kick him in the nuts whenever i cross his path.

hahahah i love steve jobs.
tony brummel says the exact same thing in every one of his emails, eventually people are going to stop caring.
victiory is the 1 independant label! and then it's ridiculous that ANY time someone doesn't want to work with them, then all of a sudden thier anti-revolution, anti-independant, you know...maybe apple just didn't want to excommunicate the 09876543 other bands and labels it works with to function solely on a subpar label.

steve jobs was polite and funny with his responses.

I really don't see how TB's being too much of a dick there. Being the top label in an industry does usually have its benefits and he sees working with Apple as a big business opportunity for both companies. Is he extremely frank and sometimes cynical in that? Yeah. But he doesn't want Victory to bend over and take it from Apple, and that's something that a lot of labels do...sort of sell their souls to the devil.