I just wanna throw this out there.
I never knew how to pronounce his name, so I just say Jeff Cum for the hell of it.

i actually did enjoy this band quite a bit. i never knew how big of a n00b shaant was though. i was always curious too as to why jeff would be with all time low in the tour videos of theirs, guessing because everyone else were assholes. i was wondering what happened to them.

Is this the band who got 500k from thier parents to start it?

i enjoyed their latest album alot. first one sucked. when i saw them tour for rotation with ace enders, they put on a solid show, cause back when i saw them tour for their first cd, they were god awful. at least they grew in that aspect.

Originally Posted by Khaos

Second album was trash

Agreed.

Originally Posted by WhoSaidThat?

First album was awful. Second album was mediocre with a few bright spots.

Can't see how that works, but okay I guess everyone has an opinion.

Originally Posted by InMyLife

lol. ok, bro

I enjoyed it, you don't have to.

Originally Posted by swt_catastrophe

Ick. Gotta love the stories you hear about band members and groupies which is why I'm a band-aid. NOT a groupie.

almost famous?

"I love playing music but when it turns into a corporation where corporate greed runs your life you can count me out :)"

True musician right there. even if he was in cute is what we aim for.

Originally Posted by Formatfun

I just wanna throw this out there.
I never knew how to pronounce his name, so I just say Jeff Cum for the hell of it.

i wonder. my last name is Crum and i dont know what id say if someone decided to throw a z in there.

Originally Posted by something.monic

almost famous?

bingo!

am I the ONLY ONE who actually liked CIWWAF. does that make me a bad person??

THis band had always been crazyily screwed up. Duh. Music from these guys was never more than being catchy and making money.