i actually did enjoy this band quite a bit. i never knew how big of a n00b shaant was though. i was always curious too as to why jeff would be with all time low in the tour videos of theirs, guessing because everyone else were assholes. i was wondering what happened to them.
i enjoyed their latest album alot. first one sucked. when i saw them tour for rotation with ace enders, they put on a solid show, cause back when i saw them tour for their first cd, they were god awful. at least they grew in that aspect.