PJ, you hang out with some of the saddest excuses for musicians in the Maine scene that I have ever seen- your argument is invalid. Jordan is phenomenal at every instrument he touches. He has mastered drums, bass, guitar and piano. He has more musical talent and capability in his pinky toe than most of the local bands in New England. Spence has been playing guitar for 8+ years. Have you heard or seen any of his solos?! Kid can shred. And we all know that good drummers are hard to come by, and SWF has had some train wreck drummers in the past, but their current drummer Josh is hands down one of the best drummers that I've seen in a local RI band in years. Have you seen SWF live? They're better than most active Maine bands I can think of. Maybe you're not into pop-punk, and that's a matter of taste, but you can't say that they are poor musicians in any sense. I can't think of any local New England band right now that is still on a local scale that has accomplished as much as these guys have.