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Inside AP.net Hopefully Some of Them Take Tim's Advice Tim Kinsella ( Cap n' Jazz, Joan of Arc, Make Believe) has an interesting article in the most recent Alternative Press in which he criticizes every band featured within Alternative Press' August 2006 issue and the musical culture in general. A transcript can be found below, taken from the AP forums.
MessageBeirut. The Patriot Act. Palestine. Africa. Wal-Mart. Clear Channel. Peak oil. Global devastation. The backward talk of those in power that dominates and suffocates our cultural discourse. Overpopulation. The dawning of neo-feudalist Theocracy in America. It's a busy, interesting place we've got here. Lots of information aimed at us. The hidden hand of power.
But beyond our control, dark energy, string theory, conceptions of an infinite mutiverse render any issues of free obsolete. We are really only allowed questions. WE can't understand anything. How could we? We live at the lip of the bubble of understanding of our own designs - never not curious, and never able to poke through.
So my point - I do have one - is that in our world, the most basic requirement we share is kept in balance only if it's shaken in many directions at the same time. And what can any of us do to help rectify the situation? We must integrate our politics into our lifestyle, acknowledge that every bridge, hook, melody and sales strategy has political demensions.
In short, I am asking that every band that appeared in the August 2006 issue of Alternative Press break up.
Desperate times require desperate measures. There's no good reason why "ex-rockstar" shouldn't be the most common job in the future. It's obvious from flipping through an issue of this magazine that there are too many bands, all trying in different ways to look and sound like each other. It's unsustainable. Why don't you guys all save yourself the inevitable worry and humiliation the future holds, break up now, and be the first mass movement in cutural history to self-consciously commit suicide?
There are pictures of maybe half a dozen people in that issue that I know, trust, respect and consider my friends. And I'm sorry to ask this of you guys, some of you have helped us in the past, and I appreciate it, but our country needs you. Your bands have to break up. You guys on the cover (one of you was 13 in 2001, so you're now at draft age), we need you to quit.
Even you guys that just had a thumbnail band photo in an ad, sorry. Collateral damage, I guess. However you each choose to understand it, let's all agree we need to draw the line clearly. Every band whose name is even mentioned in the August 2006 issue of AP must break up immediately. So, Cute Is What We Aim For, consider your new aim ansering the call of our country. Underoath, pledge allegiance to the freedom of your fellow citizens. Circa Survive, you ran an add, and I'm sorry, that's enough. You must not survive.
I know this seems like a bummer to you guys, but think about it. Throughout history, music has been at the center of every culture. Music is what people have always had between them to help each other understand how to live. The values of a culture are hiddin within its music. And I dont mean that in a Christian-rock or straight-edge way. I mean our culture is not only sick, but its taking the whole world down with it, and its symptoms are in song structures and rituals of performance.
The simplistic, sensational, emotionalistim of soaring crescendos - whose success or failure relate only to how familiar they seem on first listen - must become tired and redundant by design. When you reach your saturation point and can no longer react to these octave chords' urgent demands, then what? Will all displays of emotion seem silly? Mustn't it be true, like the boy who cried wolf, that every feigned-spontaneous emotional signifier thrust upon you by some band will just deaden your sense of empathy in the future? Perhaps even in a real-world situation, with real-world consequences? If TV and reality can be so interwined, past signifiers of rebellion is rebellion, and this is punk rock, why not?
Don't the sensationalist requirements of vicarious catharsis ask so much, that our empathy will be spent before it ever has a chance to blossom? I mean, I might not be able to understand when someone is hurting - and in turn know how to help them - if my formative experiences with understanding emotions is via these fashionable men and women.
But it's not too late. If the bands break up, maybe we can have music again in the future, and we will be able to hear it for what it is - not what it's being sold as.
I know this is a lot to ask of bands. And no one 22-year-old New Jersey kid is to blame - it's the design that is flawed. But one can't stay quiet. One has a responsibility to stand up for what one sees as god and right in the world, and if my plea can make a difference in even one young band's life - if just one band breaks up - my work here will have been worth it.
Submitted by justanact
#advice #hopefully #take #them #tims
07:59 PM on 09/30/06
... who's Tim Kinsella again?
08:02 PM on 09/30/06
You've never heard of the Kinsellas?!
08:06 PM on 09/30/06
Wow. Kinsella angry. Kinsella want to crush other bands. As much as I love Tim Kinsella's work, I'd have to say he comes off as a little jealous. This is the perfect ploy. Knock out the competition. He's probably plotting this A) get rid of all the gay ass bands B) form Cap'n Jazz's Promise Ring and then take over the world!!!!!. But in all seriousness, it was an interesting read from an interesting man.
Ps. Cap'n Jazz's Promise ring is a joke. So take it as such and don't correct me with facts I dont care about. I know who was in what band and blah blah so whatever.
08:09 PM on 09/30/06
Sounds like jaded rambling to me.
08:10 PM on 09/30/06
the flicker and the flame
He does make some good points, so I can see where the man is coming from.
08:11 PM on 09/30/06
Whine, whine, whine, whine.
08:12 PM on 09/30/06
his writing style is odd.
08:13 PM on 09/30/06
come on dude..
i half agree with him. he has some good points but hes being a little bit too much of a cock. i agree there is so much more quantity than quality now. and alllooooott of shitty bands that get more attention than they should ever deserve. something needs to change. i get what hes saying. but he sounds like a shithead.
08:14 PM on 09/30/06
It's satire. Appreciate it, don't take it seriously.
There's 3 Kinsellas. Mike, Tim, and Nate. Mike and Tim are brothers, Nate's their cousin. Together and seperately they create some of the best music that normally goes unrecognized. Start checking out the following:
Joan of Arc
Ghosts and Vodka
08:16 PM on 09/30/06
As much as I like and respect the Kinsellas... that was stupid.
If you're going to rant about the music industry, make it coherent. Don't just issue ultimatums that would simply create a vacuum for more of the same.
If someone less respectable did this I'd call a publicity ploy.
Edit: I do like the bit about emotion losing its value. That's an interesting concept. And I didn't really take this as if it were written partially in jest, in which case it's pretty funny.
08:17 PM on 09/30/06
haha. this guy's music is too good for me not to say anything. i just wish i knew where to draw the line between his social critique and the obvious joke- although, i wouldn't be too bummed out if any of the bands he named there broke up, or even if some of them were shipped off to war.
hopefully, everyone who read it took with them something meaningful instead of assuming he's just ripping on scene kids.
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