it is amazing how far they have come over the years. the first time i saw them was their "twilight tales from the prairies of the sun" cd release at club congress in tuscon az, april 2004. they opened for rx bandits. and had the original lineup with mattias on drums, scott on keys, and matt on rhythm guitar. they went from a straight up jam band to now successful popular rock music artists. good for them for working so hard.