Yo I just got the new Have Heart, should have that up for you soon bro. Tony Danza is fucking BRUTAL. I love them so much. I have to agree, I hate most of those bands scenester kids love to name drop but I don't think #12 is like that by any means. I don't even think most kids get or understand this band so I think I like that, haha.
I fucking adore this band!!! What are yout alking about us kids not knowing mathocre/experimental bands. AND WE LIKE THEM. At least in my town. I constantly turn people on to new bands like War From A Harlots Mouth, HeavyHeavyLowLow, Tony Tapdance, The Number Twelve Looks Like You (their my fave band, ignore my username, bad pick.)
I like Mongrel best (see avatar) because grandfather, jay walking backwards, and alright i admit it was a whorehouse are EPIC!!!