[Matt Chylak]

Originally Posted by Kurt Retenauer

But that's my point. I think they just want enough to have 2 or 3 hits, but they know how important it is that she reaches beyond the sob stories about boys both lyrically and musically. They gave her some freedoms on SN and she used it well, but if they were refined and like Tim said, "reeled in" a bit, she could make a great album.

see, I don't think they do. look at her singles. they're not promoting her as "earnest singer-songwriter" (though obviously also not as "pop star"). they're promoting her as "teenage girl who writes catchy songs, usually about ex-boyfriends."

[kurtpeachrings]

Originally Posted by Matt Chylak

see, I don't think they do. look at her singles. they're not promoting her as "earnest singer-songwriter" (though obviously also not as "pop star"). they're promoting her as "teenage girl who writes catchy songs, usually about ex-boyfriends."

But that marketing campaign relatively speaking flopped last time around. They got no HUGE singles, just a bunch of mediocre ones, and a ton of album sales. But like we discussed on the last page, album sales generally aren't all that matters.. you need singles to stay relevant, make money from radio, etc.

I guarantee they try and remarket Red in a different light, i.e. "grown-up Swift," but need a gimmick or two to get people to know she's back. Probably closer to the album's release they'll begin saying how much she's changed, but now it's a matter of getting Swift back on people's minds. Last time around, they toyed with the "teenager who wrote her own album" idea because she was 18-20 whilst writing all the songs.. so she was exactly that, a teenager who wrote her own album. Now she's a girl in her early 20's, which is going to force them to at least make it so that she's a young adult with dating issues. Lyrically you did see some growth from Fearless to SN, though, Last Kiss and Dear John could have easily been written by a person in their mid 20's. Expect more of the same this time around, but intensified.

[Cody Nelson]

One of the coolest lyric videos I've ever seen.

[Craig Manning]

That song is so ridiculously catchy. I hope it's not indicative of the overall style of the album, but as a lead single, it's perfect.

[LifeOfDefiance]

Originally Posted by Cody Nelson

One of the coolest lyric videos I've ever seen.

wow. good song.

[betterthanyou99]

Originally Posted by Craig Manning

That song is so ridiculously catchy. I hope it's not indicative of the overall style of the album, but as a lead single, it's perfect.

'Agree with this.

And if we go by the info we got this song indeed is not indicative of the overall style of the record. She told some magazine earlier this year that most of the songs she had written are sad, the album cover seems to reflect that somewhat. But the biggest clue of all- remember that crowd with her during the live-chat? Well...these people heard some of the material when she played it to them off-air. According to one persons twitter who was there those songs were not poppy. One of them reminding "Safe And Sound" which is slightly confusing because Scott said "SS" was not similar to the sounds you can find on the record.

Do not like the idea of 16 songs. If there are some 5-6 minutes tracks in there (like with "Speak Now") listening to this in full could get very tiring. Still optimistic. :)

[bradsonemanband]

Originally Posted by betterthanyou99

'Agree with this.

And if we go by the info we got this song indeed is not indicative of the overall style of the record. She told some magazine earlier this year that most of the songs she had written are sad, the album cover seems to reflect that somewhat. But the biggest clue of all- remember that crowd with her during the live-chat? Well...these people heard some of the material when she played it to them off-air. According to one persons twitter who was there those songs were not poppy. One of them reminding "Safe And Sound" which is slightly confusing because Scott said "SS" was not similar to the sounds you can find on the record.

Do not like the idea of 16 songs. If there are some 5-6 minutes tracks in there (like with "Speak Now") listening to this in full could get very tiring. Still optimistic. :)

16 songs?! god damn. none of those are bonus/deluxe edition tracks?

[betterthanyou99]

Originally Posted by bradsonemanband

16 songs?! god damn. none of those are bonus/deluxe edition tracks?

I think she said 16 songs +more songs you may find here and there

[kurtpeachrings]

Taylor Swift - Redthology

[ChelseaRiane]

What's the significance with red? Other than she always looks stunning in that color

[xJesusFreakx]

Originally Posted by ChelseaRiane

What's the significance with red? Other than she always looks stunning in that color

There's a song with that title on the album and the color matches how she's feeling and blah blah blah.

Regardless, I like it. Short, sweet, and to the (ambiguous) point.

[ChelseaRiane]

Originally Posted by xJesusFreakx

There's a song with that title on the album and the color matches how she's feeling and blah blah blah.

Regardless, I like it. Short, sweet, and to the (ambiguous) point.

I like it too.

That's what I like about her. She's very simple

[kurtpeachrings]

I don't think I've ever heard of an album that didn't have an ambiguous name behind it.

[daftpunker45]

I feel like the country version of the new song might be better than the original.

[daftpunker45]

Here it is. Made for country radio. I was right.