I thought it was pretty good but it perfectly showcased how Cameron Mizell is a non-consistent producer in terms of quality. I heard that there will be no screaming on this CD which typically I like the agression but SWS is the one band where I think that they may be better off without it. Either way, Kris Crummet will make this sound awesome !
Production was weak, pretty much all the songs were weak with a couple songs showing some promise. The breakdowns were terribly generic and held them back, I'm interested to hear they do without them, and Crummet is a definite improvement. I just hope they aren't too poppy.
Not my kind of band. Have the pmtoday CD, found it to be very overrated and just couldn't get into it all. I think if the next SWS were to sound more atmospheric or akin to something like Emarosa/Lower Defintion that would be great. But if it leans torwards indie/progressive like pmtoday then no thanks.
I loved it, thought it was very well done. And I listened to it without reading anything on here, so it was never overrated for me. they were great live too.
But I believe there sound without screaming will just be like their songs now, only without the forced breakdown. I doubt they'd change enough to be like Lower D, Emarosa, or Pm Today, those bands are a lot more progressive than anything I'd expect from SWS.
You're lucky to have heard them sans hype. I may have liked them had I not read all these users/reviewers absolutely gushing over how great they think they are. I know it's not right but I couldn't help but be letdown after finally getting it. To me, nothing really stood out but what was worse was that I would notice the same people bashing bands that I love and that I don't see what makes pmtoday so much better than them. In all honesty, I gave all the songs 4 stars on iTunes so obviously it's not bad at all...but the attitude of others have kind of ruined it for me :(
Try not to let other people's opinions influence you. I know that's difficult, I have the same problem sometimes, but if you really take the CD for what it is, and forget the hype, its really good, a strong progressive indie effort from some really talented musicians. It made my top twenty list last year, so I recommend you give it another shot.
I will. In fact I am listening to it as I write this (I'm on "Progress Is A Lemon") and so far I like it. Since I've listened to it last I've become a fan of bands like Decoder so maybe that has influenced me a little bit. I don't think I love the vocals but the instrumentals are excellent as is the production ! I remember listening to their prior album a while back and thinking it was cool so maybe I should check that out as well.
I like the first album, its the same style only a little more raw sounding. Media Res is a lot more together and polished, but I think they are both great records.
And if you like them, check out Flood of Red, great band from the UK.
That album title's been bothering me for quite some time. I, along with many of their other fans, have corrected them but even the album cover says it, and every post they make about it has the same thing. That's going to bug me forever.
Anyway, I'm still unsure about the whole no-screaming thing because the perfect balance is what I liked about them most.
I think they'll be so much better without it, just seemed forced and tacked on to me. And the title is intentionally like that, there's no rules for grammar in titles I guess. Doesn't bother me at least.
Yeah, we've talked about this before. I like it there because it makes more dynamic, for the lack of a better word. And it makes for a nice complement to high pitched vocals. I will agree that the screaming calls for a chug-chugga-chug breakdown, and then makes it feels really out of place sometimes (Captain Tyin' Knots had one of the worst breakdowns I've ever heard, and I hate breakdowns. No doubt that song's to appease the br00t4l mosh pit people), but I think it transitions nicely for the most part. I would definitely like it if they dropped the OM&M-esque guitar work.
If they improved on the guitar work and made it more natural I would probably like it, but I still think they had screaming just to have screaming. Their strongest parts were more melodic and I hope they translate well when focusing on that. Also I hope Crummet helps them play more than just like power chords, but I'll wait and see. I'll stop typing before I recommend you a bunch of bands with better breakdowns.
I listen to innovative post-hardcore bands too (A Lot Like Birds, letlive., Glassjaw, old We Are the Emergency, At the Drive In, La Dispute), I've seen your thread on it, some great stuff. inb4 someone says I'm name dropping, just didn't want to give off the impression that I haven't.
Its cool. I was gonna say stuff like Every Time I Die, the Bled, The Chariot, etc. Those bands have the best breakdowns in my opinion. Also the Acacia Strain uses them pretty well.