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08:09 AM on 05/04/11
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Great review, has me so stoked. However, I'm taking the No Devulcion approach and just waiting until that physical copy is in my hands. The suggestion they are taking some Pavement influence is hard to comprehend, but very exciting. I've only heard the title track thus far, and it blew me away.

I'm interested to hear which other albums you were referencing when you said it has been a great year for music already.

I've listened through the record going on four times and I would say The Snake The Cross The Crown comparison is more accurate than Pavement. On another note, I can't believw you're holding off for a copy! Hang in there; you're going to love it.

Adam, excellent review. I would've liked to hear a little more comparison to Mean Everything, but that's neither here nor there. I'm floored by this album. One complaint people have about Andy is that he acts/writes like somone decades older - I personally love his lyrics. They are equal parts compelling and tragic. They make you think and they force you to question. Right now, I still lean towards the heaviness of Mean Everything, but this album is far from a disappointing follow up. It's one of the better albums i've heard this year.
10:31 AM on 05/04/11
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thanks man. I've probably rewritten this thing about five times over the last week. I totally agree with the above statement. that's what pissed me off about the p4k review of METN.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going off of. But it's ironic, because if he wrote "teen angst" lyrics, Pitchfork wouldn't even touch it. That's what boggled me - what do they want from the dude? I really hope they review the album, though. Again, I enjoyed yr take....and I fucking love the Blood Bros. One of the scariest most awesome lives bands I've ever seen
11:45 AM on 05/04/11
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Great review even better album. I liked upon first listen, but every listen builds my opinion. This is my AOTY and although I'm awaiting some great ones (Modest Mouse, Shins, TBS, Blink, STD, Weatherbox etc.) I think my winners already here!

Oooooo Weatherbox and The Shins. Gonna be a good year.
11:46 AM on 05/04/11
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you just can't win with those guys. it sucks, because they're REALLY good writers. but there's an elitist/bullshit tinge to their choices sometimes which sucks.

True to a point - most of the time I can't argue with their Best New Music picks though.
11:51 AM on 05/04/11
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exactly, and sometimes the best new music picks are meh...that said, should have my tune-yards review up tonight/tomorrow...that album is incredible, and I didn't like her previous work at all...

Yeah, haven't got around to listening to it, but one our writers reviewed it and loved it too. I'll look for it! Thanks.
11:58 AM on 05/04/11
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when does this come out and would this be a good album to start Manchesters discography with? I wanna start getting into them.

personally, I would start with Mean Everything then Simple Math then go backwards. If you start too early, the new stuff might seem pretty jarring.
03:58 PM on 05/04/11
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overall the pitchfork review for METN is much, much more positive than negative. Plus you have to take into consideration that a 5.0 rating from Pitchfork is more or less the equivalent of a 70% on AP
Let's get technical.
11:48 AM on 05/06/11
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First I'd like to say that I don't quite understand when people say, "it took me a few listens" to get this record. If anything, I think it is their most immediate work, because although the songs may, tonally, sound varied, it is truly their most cohesive record. Their is a thread running through Simple Math that is more like a huge fucking lasso, roping us all in, and that is of course Andy Hull's expressive pipes. He does a lot of similar things with his voice (ending cadences with a high-pitched lilt, often using very staccato notes, etc) and since this is, for better or worse, a concept album in that it tells the story of a time in his life, it would be incorrect to say something as trite as, "There are a lot of different types of songs on Simple Math."

In fact, i don't think there's been an album compelling me to listen from beginning to end like this in a long time. But also, I think the amazing thing here, is that he has taken something so personal, that a lot of his fan base is too young to understand, and found a way to make it universal. He said in an interview, "I am not dumb enough to think people won't place their own meanings on top of mine." And it's that attitude that makes for long-lasting attachment.

But all that mumbo jumbo, in a way, is moot. Because I honestly don't feel the need to sit down and analize why I like this album. Rather, I felt this thing in my bones, as iffy as that sounds, telling me that this was what I needed. Telling me that this piece of art was something that would stick with me, and to an extent, change how I thought about certain types of rock music.

When it comes down to it, we all just want to be lucky enough to find something that makes us happy. And although it's unfair to say, "Thank goodness he went through this because look what came of it!," that's exactly how I feel. This isn't really an album to me, because albums have become disposable whether we believe so or not. This feels more like a book, more like a page-turner that requires dissections and discussions of motif and theme.

Simple Math, obviously, is not an easy album in many ways. But to me, it was the easiest album to love in a long time. Bravo to these dudes.

I've been coming back the review thread to keep up with how this album is sinking with everyone. Wow - I'm very gald I continue to after your thoughts. Thanks for that. I'll be listening again shortly. I've made it through the album about six times and, like yoi, I cannot really listened to it without gping start to finish. I think that aspect of this record is just amazing.

One complaint that i've had about the record is that I miss the heavier edge of METN, but I love the new direction. Also, the lyrics alone on the album one of the best i've heard in probably a few years. It's terribly moving stuff....are their any interviews with Andy regarding his personally life, around the recording of Simple Math otherwise?
12:19 PM on 05/06/11
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if you find the page on ifc.com where they debuted the video for Simple Math, you can read Andy's description of the album. It's awesome and sheds a lot of light on where he was coming from with this record.

Thanks. Sorry about the typos - on my phone and once it's typed it's set in stone.
07:16 AM on 05/27/11
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thanks man. I've probably rewritten this thing about five times over the last week. I totally agree with the above statement. that's what pissed me off about the p4k review of METN.

Pitchfork posted their review today if you're interested. As we thought, they dont praise the album as we do, but I think their assessment is fair. Plus, it's written my Ian - one their better, balanced writers.
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