This is part two of the interview between Jeremy Bolm (Touche Amore) and Jordan Dreyer (La Dispute). Part one can be found here.
Jeremy Bolm: Is Kevin writing more, or is Chad?
Jordan Dreyer: I'd say both. A lot of the solos and the lead parts are Kevin. It's a collaborative effort for the most part. Some of it is orchestrated by Brad and Vass coming up with ideas and Kevin and Chad coming up with ideas over that.
Bolm; Okay. I just like to imagine Kevin with his shirt off ripping the hardest riff…
Dreyer: With long hair?
Bolm: With long hair! [Laughs]
Dreyer: [Laughs] I'm going to harken back to a previous topic. We talked about how some of the similarities just kind of happened. I think we were shocked and excited when we first started playing these songs for each other while we were on tour. We all had realizations that we had written similar parts in our songs.
Bolm: I think the first note on your song is the first note on our song. I don't think a lot of people have picked up on that. Right off the bat, that's how special it was for us to work together on this.
Dreyer: What makes that happen? We didn't sit down with guitar tracks back and forth and try to write something similar, it just kind of happened organically.
Bolm: I really don't know. I'm going to say magic. [Laughs]
Dreyer: Something you can't put a finger on. [Laughs]
Bolm: It wasn't intentional. It just sort of happened. I liked it more knowing that it didn't happen that way.
Dreyer: Me too. Going back to the lyrical aspect of it, I like the fact that you and I, and this is an extension to the conversation we had in Chicago, but how the songs reflect our locations. We talk about our hometowns and the differences and what not. How much of your surroundings effect your thought process as an artist?
Dreyer: I always hear about the difference in sound from the West coast and the East coast and then the awkward Midwest where we're from…
Bolm: I definitely feel it plays a part for sure. For me, it's never been a real straight forward thing. Maybe it's how the weather has been and how people treat each other…That's more of the inspiration of Southern California for me…
Dreyer: The people there?
Bolm: Yeah. Maybe it's because the weather is so nice here that people don't realize how good they have it and that leads into their pretentiousness.
Dreyer: True. Not to blame the way the weather here, but how stuck in between seasons it can be of how hot it can be and how cold it is. I always think that has a really profound effect on the way people conduct themselves and how people perceive the world. Both sides of the extreme in how summer can be just so humid and uncomfortable and the winter is cold and snowy and have to scrape ice off your car every morning.
Bolm: I can definitely see that and how it effects people here. That can definitely segue into my question. Jordan, you just got a lot of your influence for the tracks on this as weather based influenced, if you lived in California, do you think your b-sides would sound like Pet Sounds? [Laughs]
Dreyer: I hope so. I really hope so. I find it a bit unrealistic. I'm surprised all bands from California don't sound like that. [Laughs]
Bolm: Right now, I'm currently wearing a Hawaiian shirt on with no shirt underneath and that white spot of sunblock on my nose. [Laughs]
Dreyer: I'm wearing a parka and playing hockey.
Okay, guys I'm going to finalize this with one last question and your thoughts. Jordan we've discussed this the last time you were in town. One of the things that I find my year kind of going with is having my faith instilled back into post-hardcore and punk and ethics and what's going on at No Sleep and what's going on at Topshelf and what's going on at Sargent House and Paper + Plastick and these ideals and all this good music that's coming out in this drought of my childhood of what I grew up with and discovered in high school and college. In the midst of this thing that everyone has deemed "the wave," what do you guys think of that? What do you guys think of being towards the forefront of this whole new movement?
Dreyer: First thing is, I don't think the core of music we're part of ever left. It's always been there. I think everything kind of comes and goes. In a lot of ways, it's a whole predator and prey relationship. If a population of a predator is too high, then the population of the prey gets too low and it shifts. I think in some ways it's gotten too low. In recent years, the whole industry, well, the bulk of it has been dominated by music with no real redeeming social or emotional value. In some ways, the success of bands like us and bands we are friends with and [those labels], it's a response to that domination to the other side of the spectrum. Stuff that doesn't really challenge. Stuff that isn't attaching themselves to something. It's exciting right now.
Bolm: Kids are getting back into things that are more thought inspiring too. I'm sure, to Jordan as well, kids are getting back into zines again. Kids are further into photography and expressing themselves in certain ways. Kids are coming out and wanting to share themselves in one way or another. I haven't seen it happen in a long time. That being said, I haven't seen it happen in the last few years. Like Jordan said, it's always happened, but kids are more excited about doing it now. Maybe kids will pay more attention to bands like La Dispute and Pianos and Defeater because I feel what kids need right now is something to attach themselves to.
Dreyer: Right. Every single day you're presented with a million different factors of society that present scrupulous forms of satisfaction. We're so fortunate to have something like punk or hardcore or whatever you want to call it. It really gives an opportunity to get the focus off capitalistic, materialistic, Western society and culture and really put it back into things that really have a value and that can change for the better. Like Jeremy said, people making things and throwing shows in houses and more and more people are kind of taking their lives back. People are more conscious about what they're putting in their body and where they're buying food and what clothes they're wearing. In general, I think it's a big shift, but another thing that's of concern is how quickly that can be turned into a product. I think everyone should be aware of themselves because everyone is trying to make a dollar off of something.
Bolm: How this last year has been for La Dispute and Touche Amore is overwhelming and including some of our friends in it is the way we reacted to it as opposed to trying to be like "Our band's doing this and our band's doing that." Including our friends in it is more important than anything. I think it'll stay that way for most of our bands and I always want to be included in with those bands.