not a bad band or song, but i mean the effect on the screaming at the beginning is used in every metalcore song I've ever heard. and its pretty generic otherwise as well....

i live in the same place as these guys and ABR and every local band here wants to be ABR. annoying to say the least

This is shit. Their emulation of ABR is just pathetic, even more so since they hail from Lancaster.
I also find it strange that Greiner is down with Adam Gray, surely he knows that Gray is a crap drummer.

Came here to say the girl in the video was pretty hot..

Originally Posted by ExtremeAvalanch

This is shit. Their emulation of ABR is just pathetic, even more so since they hail from Lancaster.
I also find it strange that Greiner is down with Adam Gray, surely he knows that Gray is a crap drummer.

abr is cool with them because they remember being an up and coming christian metalcore band. also, adam gray is sick, you're a fool if you don't think so. matt greiner will tell you that himself.

Originally Posted by giantintheocean

abr is cool with them because they remember being an up and coming christian metalcore band. also, adam gray is sick, you're a fool if you don't think so. matt greiner will tell you that himself.

Gray might be a good drummer off the record, but I know middle schoolers that can play better than he can on the album. Aside from flipping sticks, I just don't see what he has to offer.
Compared to a drummer like Greiner, he's nothing.