Originally Posted by ship of fools

every cicrca survive song sounds exactly the same, old or new album

When I listened Juturna the first couple times, it all sounded the same, but after awhile it became one of my favorite albums, you need to listen to their albums when you're relaxing and when there's nothing disturbing going around. Then you'll feel the best of it

Originally Posted by ship of fools

every cicrca survive song sounds exactly the same, old or new album

well awesome, thank you for helping me weed out who to take opinions from on this site, cos you obviously know jack shit about music, and i didn't have to waste any of my time figuring that out.

outstanding review.
and im currently streaming the album for the second time and i like it... but im still trying to get hooked.

Originally Posted by subtledagger

steve, i was just wondering what you thought of the lyrics because outside of the score you didn't get into them as much as other parts.

what did you like and what didn't you like?

I thought ,although they werent great ,they were by far mr. green's most mature and cohesive lyrics to date, without losing his style.

I enjoy the lyrics on the album a pretty good deal. They are vintage Green in that they are quirky, obtuse, artistic, and just kind of strange at points. In the grand scheme of things, they are a little too off-kilter to be rated much higher (in my opinion), but they are still strong.

Originally Posted by SLADE775

A 10 on vocals is just silly though, Steve.

His range simply does not warrant a 10.

I did that just for you Slade. So now you jags can maybe get off of the Cove Reber 10 score in vocals.

hmmm...it makes sense with the categories that are available...but it was pretty much Juturna Revisited with less staying power..

i set my expectations way too high. i did expect to see a different kind of evolution from this band. i need to just accept the cd for what it is.

damn good review. i can't wait to get this album.

very good review Steve. i definitely agree with everything you wrote. this album is definitely a grower and it gets better with every listen. this is one of the best cds that i've heard all year so far, and i'm glad my expectations didn't fall through.

Amazing album.

I just love the vibe it gives off.

I would switch the ratings for vocals and lyrics...Anthony just isn't that strong vocally

Originally Posted by SLADE775

A 10 on vocals is just silly though, Steve.

His range simply does not warrant a 10.

Since when is 2 and a half octaves considered a really big range? I thought 3 or higher was impressive. I also disagree with the 10 on the vocals. Anthony does so much better on this album than on Juturna, and I've been giving this album a serious listen. I think this album meshes less than Juturna did and it's a ton better than Juturna especially in the vocal area. But I don't see the vocal talent everyone keeps talking about. Potential to be a vocal talent is much different... I would hope he continues to progress, at a faster rate also, but either way. I about 60 % of his melodies are good on this album, 20 are decent and the other 20 are just plain awful. I can already hear where he's going to be incredibly flat live on half of these songs.

Originally Posted by guitarnick20

Since when is 2 and a half octaves considered a really big range? I thought 3 or higher was impressive. I also disagree with the 10 on the vocals. Anthony does so much better on this album than on Juturna, and I've been giving this album a serious listen. I think this album meshes less than Juturna did and it's a ton better than Juturna especially in the vocal area. But I don't see the vocal talent everyone keeps talking about. Potential to be a vocal talent is much different... I would hope he continues to progress, at a faster rate also, but either way. I about 60 % of his melodies are good on this album, 20 are decent and the other 20 are just plain awful. I can already hear where he's going to be incredibly flat live on half of these songs.

okay, i think we all get your point. you say the exact same thing in every other Circa Survive thread.

Great Review, very insightful. Great ideas and Green is amazing without a doubt.

Originally Posted by sirensiren

in the "for fans of" thing it says, Facing New York. i've never heard of them, what type of music is it?

Facing new york is an amazing progrock band with a lot of piano/keyboard and obvious mars volta influence. I have seen then perform localy many times before they got, because there from my area.