Yea I have heard them plenty of time and I do realize they have influenced probably every band I listen to. Even on the recordings his voice sounds like crap to me. However, this live video is horrible because a)quality is crap b) vocals make me laugh c) guitarist is out of tune throughout the video
You have your head sooo far up your ass, its so funny.
Firstly. What the fuck do you expect with the quality? Hmm, a proto-emo quintet that really only gained a lot of fans after they broke up...the video should be top-quality, right? Yeah...
Secondly. Kinsella's vocals may not be good but I'll be fucked if they didn't set him a part from almost every band in the country. You fail to reward his lyrics which kick the shit out of anything you listen to.
Thirdly. If you're criticizing the guitarist being out of tune, you might as well criticize the entire math-rock, experimental-rock, and sections of indie-rock while you're at it. Your statement holds no validity and is laughable at best.