The only major difference I see is in record sales. To my knowledge, Rise hasnt had any gold/platinum records. Or acts to reach the level of success as Taking Back Sunday, Hawthorne Heights, Thursday, Atreyu or even A Day to Remember. But whos to say they cant with all of their amazing signings as of lately. Hell, even Attack Attack! could be that band, even with all the hate.

Originally Posted by betweenvega

The Devil Wears Prada aren't as big as Atreyu or Hawthorne Heights? I'm sorry, that's utter bull.

I know they are huge, but did they sell gold/platinum status while on Rise? Im not even sure. Didnt they only release one album on Rise? I know times are different and know artist does those numbers anymore.

Originally Posted by TerrancePryor

Victory should learn from Rise and stop signing putrid bands like Design The Skyline. When ADTR leaves,that label is done.

Emmure still sells quite a bit and a big draw at shows, after they leave, I personally cant name one band I know who is still somewhat relevant on that label. Is BTBAM still on Victory?

Originally Posted by Miketheunicycle

comeback kid?

Very much so true. Symtoms and Cures was a good record. But still not a band that will keep the label relevant like ADTR can. They even tried to hop on a trend with Design The Skyline, and failed miserably.

Originally Posted by jacobcm

Granted Rise doesn't have a single band that could ever reach Taking Back Sunday popularity, do you have any idea how much record sales are down from 2004? In slightly over a year, Where You Want to Be (their last release on Victory) sold close to 700,000 copies. No band on Rise could ever achieve those numbers in 2012. Never.

I noticed what I said after posting. I do realize album sales went down a lot. With that being said, I can see Rise at some point finding a band that can break out into the mainstream with the varied bands they have been signing.