Hmmm...

Originally Posted by bmoore09

doesn't he know heroin is a gateway drug

I feel like such a terrible human being for cracking up at this.

But really, I don't think this should've been posted either, but eh.

Originally Posted by deadkidsean

Instead of the people around him trying to rally the scene against him, how about getting him some fucking help. Novel idea, eh? If he's truly a heroin addict, he will literally stop at nothing until he's dead or locked in a rehabilitation facility.

But really, he's gotten plenty of help. Rehabilitation is the only thing anyone can do at this point and he has already shown he won't get anything out of it.

Originally Posted by FailureWithinMe

The whole point of having a website like this is to get hits. Don't think for a second that cnn and fox news wouldn't post pictures of Mitt Romney doing heroin if someone sent them pictures of it happening.

And what's wrong with putting these pictures up in the first place? Don't fans have the right to know what Jonny is doing with the money they are paying him? Especially when he's been caught doing some not so ethically correct things in the past. There's nothing wrong with posting these pictures. Absolutely nothing.

They probably wouldn't.

Originally Posted by deadkidsean

I'm not. And my post wasn't directed at AbsolutePunk.net or its users.

I updated that post, but yeah.

Originally Posted by FailureWithinMe

i think you're giving the folks at fox news too much credit. i'm not sold on them being intelligent enough to figure out who they're supposed to be supporting

You have an excellent point.

My final overall view:

1. I don't wanna truly get involved with the drug addiction of someone I don't know, obviously. We say he's had enough chances, but I'm sure some people have had a close friend struggle with this and would have never dreamed of giving up on them. If he can overcome it with his friends' help, more power to him. If not, he had his chance.

2. Him getting kicked out of DGD and being removed from Rise's roster is news.

3. There is no reason whatsoever that the pictures should have been posted. But we can't stop you, so oh well.

Originally Posted by Thomas Nassiff

hahahahahaha when katy perry unfollowing russell brand on twitter gets recognized as news, i'm not too worried about tainting the profession

Wait a minute...

Jon Mess: I thought you were picking me up right now! Do you still have the money that I gave you earlier?!

Originally Posted by ADAY86

We're scum? Fuck you twat. He's been giving so many chances to get clean. And all he has done is taken advantage of people. How about this. You got spend thousands of your own dollars to try to get him clean and watch him take full advantage of you too. Your opinion of this asshole will change vastly.

You're aware he was in DGD with Jonny...right?

Originally Posted by rickman

Will Swan via Facebook. "Well we never kicked him out. That was absolute punk speculative journalism. We've been trying to help him get help but he's not been very responsive to us. And now his legal troubles may keep him from entering the u.s. Ever again. So we have no choice but to soldier on without him and hope he gets help in this down time"

That's not kicking someone out? I mean, I guess you could say he quit by fleeing the country or whatever, but when it comes down to it, DGD's the one moving on without him. So if "speculative journalism" means "logic" I guess it makes sense.

Originally Posted by rickman

He's still a member of Dance Gavin Dance. Hell, their bassist Eric Lodge is still a member, but he hasn't toured with them in years.

Would that really make him a member then? If they only tour with fill-ins and wait for him to get back after that, I'll believe it. Otherwise, eh.

But either way, I don't know why they insist on keeping him in the band. I'm all for them being his friends and helping him out as a human being, but should they really keep putting thier future in his hands?

Jonny and DGD are the Ryan Howard and Kelly Kapoor of music. Functionable at the beginning, split up and back together way too often, really painful to watch by the most recent couple of seasons.

Originally Posted by Jason Tate

"Without him" sure doesn't make it sound like he's still a member of the band.

My thoughts exactly.

Members of Dance Gavin Dance have always proven to be reliable.

Originally Posted by mvacare23

Thomas, maybe he will be skyping during live concerts.

But where would he get a comp...oh.