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07:44 AM on 02/17/12 
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So where am I supposed to feel sorry for this dude? Bad promoters are nothing new, either deal with it like every other band ever does or quit while you're ahead and get a job/go back to school. I'd support the latter as this dude clearly cannot handle the harsh reality of the music industry.
08:06 AM on 02/17/12 
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The second hand embarrassment from that is so strong.
08:22 AM on 02/17/12 
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Funny how the dude who posted this happens to have a tacky DEFEND POP PUNK avatar.
08:23 AM on 02/17/12 
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So I'm guessing this band consists of four high school kids and one of their dads?
08:32 AM on 02/17/12 
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I just posted this on the B9, should get a good laugh or two.
08:40 AM on 02/17/12 
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That whole "tr00" pop punk mindset really needs to just fuck off already.
09:01 AM on 02/17/12 
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Is OP in the band? I'm legit curious.
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Irony
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Lol, one of Ice Nine Kills' spam accounts crashed that thread.
09:12 AM on 02/17/12 
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They should take a live photo of them, put it on the back of a hoodie, then put lyrics around it.

EXAMPLE.

POP PUNK THAT FEELS

(SHITTY PIC OF UGLY DUDES PLAYING SHITTY MUSIC TO 2 OF THEIR FRIENDS)

NOT POP PUNK THAT SELLS

I had a good laugh reading this. I should sig this.
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I didn't feel like reading that whole thing right now, so I was going to come back to it later, but is that the band writing this?

If so, fuck spending time on that. Fucking flip-flops?
That is indeed the band.
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B9 is quite enjoying themselves reading that.
11:13 PM on 02/17/12 
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Smh at people defending shitty promoters. Just because they're a reality doesn't mean you have to accept them.

I never said I agreed with shitty promoters nor am I defending them. I just think the kid could of handled this a lot more constructively, instead of writing a whiny, long winded rant that achieves nothing.
11:03 AM on 02/18/12 
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Not to pile onto a mostly dead thread but has anyone pointed out that this band is complaining about something literally every band in existence has had to deal with? If these dudes really care about passion or whatever overwrought concept they're currently pushing as sincere, they'd pick up a book like Our Band Could Be Your Life and recognize how bands like Black Flag or Mission of Burma dealt with the same shit. Instead of writing a tryhard manifesto about shitty promoters, just warn your friends not to play those shows or support those people.

Word gets around and that does a whole lot more actual good "in the scene" than posturing about how you're going to save it.



I suspect it's because a lot of people have deluded themselves into thinking pop punk is something more than just another form of accessible music so they started creating faux-macho stances defending something that nobody who isn't an insecure asshole would feel the need to defend in the first place. I suspect a lot of those people secretly wish they could get into punk/hardcore but for whatever reason didn't.

plus ever since green day and blink 182 got famous, there's always been a rather large bro contingent in pop punk fans.

Nailed it on both points.



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