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09:04 PM on 08/12/10 
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IceAge/HeatWave
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That album was actually incredibly ambiguous and conflicted. One moment Aaron's talking about Christ's birth and death (though strangely not resurrection), and the next he's praising Allah. The whole album is a big mess of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, with no clear thoughts about who this "beautiful G-d [that] there must be" could be. Even so, this album is over
a year old, so it doesn't necessarily prove or disprove anything. Much more telling is the way that Aaron has outright refused to answer any questions pertaining to his beliefs over the past year or so, which seems like a sign that he doesn't know what his beliefs are. Oh, and he was supposed to do this forum thing at Cornerstone but walked off stage after saying something about how he couldn't talk about his beliefs and that maybe he'd try Buddhism or something. That's kinda telling.

i mean, he was raised in a mixed religion background.

straight from his brother, mike: this album was recorded at a time when aaron was "...sort of revisiting [religion] and holding himself up to those teachings that there's no one religion that's going to be the only way to God..."
10:42 PM on 08/12/10 
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Not being in a band anyone is always an option. Just sayin'.
He has the option but he doesnt take it .You had the option of not listening but you didnt take it, you also had the option of not whinging about it but you didnt take it.

just saying

also see below
10:54 PM on 08/12/10 
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The way to not be noticed would be to completely blend in and not do anything out of the ordinary. Of course it wouldn't really work in a song about not being noticed, but if you're giving a speech, it probably wouldn't be the best idea to just come right out and ask the audience not to pay attention.

yeah you missed the point. ill try again. what do you say if you did something out of the ordinary and didnt want people to look at you when they were already looking at you. IMO those lyrics could be in reguard to shame, like if you got caught doing something you were ashamed of and that was a reaction to getting judged though in a differnet senario it could be seen as a cry of attention. the point is its sometimes very hard to find the right context in lyrics and in the english laugauge you can say the same words but depending on context they can mean very different thing (i also personally think that that is a fall in the langauge because langauge is about comunication and all that does is create mis-comunication...... Lyrics are not though they are just about expressing so ill stop because im rambling)
09:54 PM on 08/14/10 
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such a unique band in my opinion.
10:36 PM on 08/14/10 
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GuitarR0cker1
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I have respect for Aaron.
10:47 PM on 08/14/10 
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I am so so so bummed that this tour didn't come to FL. If I've lost any respect for Aaron (which I haven't) it's because they didn't plan any FL dates.
11:09 PM on 08/14/10 
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I know I'm about 100 years late on this band considering whom they've toured with and the fact that I've known about them for years, but I've been listening to them on a pretty consistent basis over the last month. Honestly, though, I doubt I could've handled the religious aspect of everything they are before them. It's hard to explain, but, yeah, been heavily into them a lot lately.

That being said, and I'm curious to find out from older fans, did Aaron ever come out and actually dispel the rumors that he's on the autism spectrum? I mean, and this isn't drawn from how he performs, moreso, the way his body reacts on stage and in interviews, it is blatantly obvious to me and I don't think I'd believe him even if he did.
11:50 PM on 08/14/10 
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I'm not sure. I've never heard him address it before. I've never really gotten that feeling from seeing him in person but he does seem a little...awkward, shall we say?...on video.
07:14 AM on 08/15/10 
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I'm not sure. I've never heard him address it before. I've never really gotten that feeling from seeing him in person but he does seem a little...awkward, shall we say?...on video.

Who is kissing Mr. Bazan in your avatar?
10:19 AM on 08/15/10 
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i have a bad habit of getting into bands when they are on the downslope. i.e. afi after they released decemberunderground, ugh...alkaline trio when they started getting a lot more poppy. and apparently mewithoutyou is starting to suck?

i will say this: whatever aaron believes and may be going through, what he doesn't need is a lot of judgment and abandonment from fans. if this band has helped you or brought joy to you at all, i think you owe it to aaron and the band to have their back and give them the benefit of the doubt right now.

No. Support is earned.
After they released 3 amazing albums, the steaming pile of camp that was "It's all false..." deserves nothing but the derision it gets. I won't abandon them, but I certainly don't support the direction they've taken.
10:45 AM on 08/15/10 
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No. Support is earned.
After they released 3 amazing albums, the steaming pile of camp that was "It's all false..." deserves nothing but the derision it gets. I won't abandon them, but I certainly don't support the direction they've taken.

It's all crazy>>>>(a-->b) life.

To put it in perspective, however:

brother,sister>>CFUTF>>>it's all crazy>>>> (a-->b) life.
10:47 AM on 08/15/10 
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such a unique band in my opinion.

Honestly, I haven't listened to anyone that sounds like them.
10:50 AM on 08/15/10 
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I know I'm about 100 years late on this band considering whom they've toured with and the fact that I've known about them for years, but I've been listening to them on a pretty consistent basis over the last month. Honestly, though, I doubt I could've handled the religious aspect of everything they are before them. It's hard to explain, but, yeah, been heavily into them a lot
lately.

That being said, and I'm curious to find out from older fans, did Aaron ever come out and actually dispel the rumors that he's on the autism spectrum? I mean, and this isn't drawn from how he performs, moreso, the way his body reacts on stage and in interviews, it is blatantly
obvious to me and I don't think I'd believe him even if he did.

yeah, I've read an interview where he says it isn't true. He does it in such a polite way, which is surprising and further testament to the character of Aaron- because really, that is the sort of rumor that I really couldn't blame someone for getting crazy upset about.

Yeah, triple post.
10:52 AM on 08/15/10 
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Honestly, I haven't listened to anyone that sounds like them.

From Indian Lakes makes a valiant attempt and is pretty good at it...
11:08 AM on 08/15/10 
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From Indian Lakes makes a valiant attempt and is pretty good at it...

Haven't heard of them. Have they put out enough material for you to recommend an entry point in their catalogue? Or is it a scour the internet and find what I can kinda thing?



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