[magicrat85]

Originally Posted by youenvydoug

I cringe every time I look at CM Punk when he has the mic.

Dude has the most ugly facial expressions.

in the pg era he is the best on the mic

[Fuck You Aurora]

Originally Posted by last light

PPV wasn't bad, would have been better if Big Show/Cena didn't main event. First 2 matches were really good, tag match was fun (and possibly built some new stars?!), Dug the triple threat, ending was whatever but it will still continue D.Bry/Punk so that's all good.

Same page as everyone, they need to do something with Cena. I really enjoyed a lot of his stuff over the last year, but this 1 off feud stuff is awful. They seemingly dropped the attempt to split the crowd on him. I liked when they were sort of doing the Cena fans/other fans deal by selling the Cena Sucks shirts.

I just don't think money is going to change by acknowledging that half the people hate Cena. Your crowd is basically made up of people who will always love wrestling (us) and kids. That's fine, but actually cater to that. You don't need to turn him full heel, but let him be the "heel" in certain situations. His best stuff was last year when he was feuding with Punk. The dynamic of not knowing which crowd was going to love cena, hate cena, love punk, hate punk was awesome.

I also don't think Punk is stale as a champion. The long reign is good for the belt and he is working the best matches on most cards. I know everyone loves Ziggler but putting the belt on him right now would be a bust I think. Crowd was hot for him last night, and he is awesome...I think a MITB win goes a long way with him.

Hopefully Raw 1000/MITB/Summerslam move things in a new direction. They have a crazy amount of good young talent in waiting. I think they are confident to push some of them, too.

I thought the tag match was solid to. I really think they are treying to make the tag divison relavant again. But the problem is nobody cares. It's a shame because the Usos, Primetime Players, and Tyson Kidd and Gabrial have so much potential as tag teams.

[Fuck You Aurora]

Well Vince needs to get his head out of his ass and realize that Ziggler can be a draw.

[CIMA]

Okay PPV overall, nothing great but mostly solid, with Christian/Cody the exception as that was very good.

Dolph/Sheamus wasnt really that good, infact their Raw match the other week was better than this one.

The 4 way tag match was fun, and a nice suprise too see. Thought the Usos did well in the match, as did Epico/Primo. PTP winning is fine by me, I'm a fan. Tuxedo match was fun for what it was, but both guys have done better comedy stuff.

Hunico/Sin cara wasn't very good. I watched Superstars yesterday which featured Hunico/Gabriel and it was so good, and I made a point that Hunico needs more TV time because he's talented but Sin Cara just isn't working right now. The blue light doesnt help either.

Enjoyed the Three way, but it wasnt anything special. It was just okay. Credit to Kane though, he really worked hard to up his game.

Main event wasn't great either. I did like the use of Brodus and the other guys Show had attacked during the match though, that was a nice touch. Ryder's sell of the punch was great too.

Its a shame Show lost though, because I think the Ace character still had plenty of mileage in it, but they were sort of in the lose-lose situation and its better to have him off TV than Cena.

[irthetyler]

Disagree about Dolph/Sheamus, but besides that pretty much on the same page as you.

[CIMA]

Re-reading my comment, and it makes it sound like I didnt like the Sheamus/Dolph match. I did like it, just that it wasn't that great, or atleast not as great as it could have been. Certainly their raw match was a better match.

[irthetyler]

I thought it was pretty good, but may be rating it higher in my head due to it being an opener. Agree the IC title match was the show stealer.

[Fuck You Aurora]

Originally Posted by CIMA

Re-reading my comment, and it makes it sound like I didnt like the Sheamus/Dolph match. I did like it, just that it wasn't that great, or atleast not as great as it could have been. Certainly their raw match was a better match.

Do you think it maybe could have gotten more time ?

[CIMA]

Originally Posted by Fuck You Aurora

Do you think it maybe could have gotten more time ?

Maybe, but they got about 15 minutes which is fairly decent. Main event got about 20 just for comparison.

[Recovery Room]

I'm not in love with the Cena story lines, but I could tolerate them a lot more if they made it the secondary story. The WWE Championship should ALWAYS be the main focus. Sheamus isn't my favorite, but I can live with them pushing him as it's not Cena or Orton or anyone else like that. Their main focus should be these guys, though:

CM Punk
Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Cody Rhodes
Damien Sandow

I mean, seriously, why did that Sin Cara match need to be on the card? I'd rather watch 15 minutes of Sandow grinning and doing cartwheels.

[CIMA]

I wouldn't really put Sandow on a list of guys that should be the main focus right now. He hasnt had a match of any real meaning yet. There isn't any real evidence that he could pull of being a top guy yet either.

[aradiantsunrise]

I don't understand why they aren't using Cesaro more. It's like they only put him on Smackdown every one or two weeks.

[bones jones]

agreed, sandow is awesome and this thread has a megaboner over him, but right now he's basically the new zack ryder

[thespearkid]

Originally Posted by magicrat85

in the pg era he is the best on the mic

He was the best on the mic. Punk hasn't said anything mildly interesting since his Wrestlemania build up with Jericho. Bryan, Rhodes, and even Ziggler with his minimal mic time have eclipsed Punk lately. He's on autopilot right now.

And to the suggestion that Ziggler should win the MITB match, I'd rather not see that. I don't want to see Ziggler win the belt from a run-in at the end of someone else's match. I want to see him go out, steal the show, and win the belt in a hard fought contest.

[CIMA]

Originally Posted by aradiantsunrise

I don't understand why aren't using Cesaro more. It's like they only put him on Smackdown every one or two weeks.

It what happens when you debut multiple people on the same show around the same time. Sadly for him, Sandow and Ryback are the focus right now.

He was also apart of the new NXT tapings, so that not yet being on TV might of hindered his push a little.