yeah, they really over thought things with that last one. a clear headed blink could've pumped out an album of simpler but better songs, and I really wish they just would. someone just needs to tell them the truth, that they aren't a great band, but a very creative band that when worked within a certain framework that could write great things. they aren't sonically interesting, they never will be, it's not their thing. they certainly aren't lyricists to be taken seriously, and vocally they are very limited. someone NEEDS to tell Tom that his voice can get irritating, i know he's heard it a million times, but someone needs to really convince him. ambition is a great thing, but it can also be certain failure if not used correctly. I think that's really where Jerry Finn came in.