Originally Posted by Brandon Allin

One of the worst bands in this already mostly shitty genre.

I concur

Only 8 shows and people are complaining hard, haha.

Originally Posted by Raarzipan

Do you have no say in who you tour with? Terrible tour.

It makes me feel uncomfortable when band members have to answer these types of questions but they have some say in it. They can either take or deny tours. They could have easily said no they don't want to do it. But at the end of the day, it's still a business and they want to have as many kids as possible at the shows. These were probably the bands that had the best ability to draw kids and keep the budget for the tour low. Are you going to turn down a job offer that pays well just because your employer's products aren't great?

Originally Posted by plns

It makes me feel uncomfortable when band members have to answer these types of questions but they have some say in it. They can either take or deny tours. They could have easily said no they don't want to do it. But at the end of the day, it's still a business and they want to have as many kids as possible at the shows. These were probably the bands that had the best ability to draw kids and keep the budget for the tour low. Are you going to turn down a job offer that pays well just because your employer's products aren't great?

Yes I would. I'm an electrical engineering/computer science major, part of the code of ethics for engineers is to not produce a sub par product or something that has the potential to be flawed. I would not agree to work on a product if I knew it was below my standards as a person.

As far as the musicians stand point, these bands have a draw sense when? They could easily have been on tours with better bands. He himself once said when someone asked if he would do guest vocals for Make Me Famous he wouldn't consider it because he does not like what they stand for.

I've been away from this scene for so long, do these tours still have the same draw they did a couple of years ago?

I love TWA and ISS, lukewarm on Make Me Famous and Crown The Empire though.

glad there's a KS show. i've only seen TWA at warped the past couple years so it'll be cool at a club.

I definitely don't mind that this isn't coming to my area. I love The Word Alive, but it sucks that they have to put up with this tour. Pretty sure Telle hates Make Me Famous.

I thought Telle didn't like Make Me Famous.

Man The Word Alive are musically talented dudes, this tour is not full of musically talented dudes. And that sucks.

Da fuqq???? only 8 dates and of course nothing near NY???

Originally Posted by TelleTWA

LOL We love you too Jason!
These are just routing dates to and from Summer Fest.

Man, I have to say it right now. My friends think you and your new drummer are amazing. I woke up the other morning after crashing at their place after a party to them spending like and an hour and a half watching him do drum covers on youtube on their xbox.

Come back to North Carolina and make all of our lives. Enough said. haha.

Originally Posted by Raarzipan

Yes I would. I'm an electrical engineering/computer science major, part of the code of ethics for engineers is to not produce a sub par product or something that has the potential to be flawed. I would not agree to work on a product if I knew it was below my standards as a person.

As far as the musicians stand point, these bands have a draw sense when? They could easily have been on tours with better bands. He himself once said when someone asked if he would do guest vocals for Make Me Famous he wouldn't consider it because he does not like what they stand for.

Oh bc you've seen what tours their booking agent submitted to? They totally passed up a tour with U2 to get out there.


It's 8 dates that are just routing them to a fest..... You're comparing electrical engineering to tour dates with I see stars... Holy hell..... "code of ethics"? REALLY? It's more unethical to tour with these bands then it is to drive ,however many miles, STRAIGHT to the festival....... That's your argument....


Oh let it be known... That I don't "care" about any of these bands, I hardly am trying to defend anyones honor... But you getting (seriously) this bent out of shape over 8 dates is ludicrous.....

Originally Posted by WeltallAY

I love TWA and ISS, lukewarm on Make Me Famous and Crown The Empire though.

you love i see stars?

please release the studio version of wishmaster already..i want to listen to it now