Need to give this a listen.

Loved Nki Am, but that's all I've heard.

Does this sound anything like Skeletons? only release I've remotely enjoyed by them.

i just wish they had the production they had on skeletons, that record sounded excellent!

Okay, I absolutely have to hear this CD. I haven't yet. But if people are saying it's their BEST WORK yet, better than Silence, then...well where's my keys so I can go to the record store?

Originally Posted by poppunkwayo

i just wish they had the production they had on skeletons, that record sounded excellent!

Major labels like Wind-Up can pay for top-notch, professional producers. For doing everything themselves, the band made this release sound very good.

Originally Posted by poppunkwayo

i just wish they had the production they had on skeletons, that record sounded excellent!

i think they want it to sound like that. raw, and very under produced.

HOPE is honestly some of their best work yet! Nowhere fast is so different for them but its so cool. If you like this release I would recommend picking up the book they did for this. JT talks about every song and it has some cool pictures/stories.

The first two albums were laughably awful, so I haven't given them much of a chance since then (I mean, why bother, there are tons of legit bands who I'd rather support).

Do they still play a lot of old material live, or is this pretty much a new, reinvented band that just keeps the same old name for business purposes?

I'm sure the hate will flow freely (especially in a thread dedicated to Hawthorne Heights), but truthfully, I'd be more willing to give this new, seemingly well-reviewed band a shot if it wasn't attached to the Hawthorne Heights name. I'm not the only one. /honesty

If anyone wants to discuss that aspect of Hawthorne Heights (would they be more respected with a different name? would they be less? more commercially successful? less?) intelligently, feel free to quote this. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll receive the standard "fuck you" posts/private messages.

Originally Posted by buddah knome

i think they want it to sound like that. raw, and very under produced.

Originally Posted by CallMeTroy

Major labels like Wind-Up can pay for top-notch, professional producers. For doing everything themselves, the band made this release sound very good.

oh i didn't say i didn't like the production i just preferred the clean sounding album, the songs sounded so much more bigger, more anthem like. If Only You Were Lonely & Skeletons were their best sounding albums (production wise) in my opinion, but i enjoy all their full lengths.

The production is excellent in my opinion. It's crisp sounding yet not over-produced at all.

Originally Posted by poppunkwayo

oh i didn't say i didn't like the production i just preferred the clean sounding album, the songs sounded so much more bigger, more anthem like. If Only You Were Lonely & Skeletons were their best sounding albums (production wise) in my opinion, but i enjoy all their full lengths.

I absolutely love the snare on if on you were lonely. Skeletons and ioywl for sure had the most money put behind them and the production shows for sure! I agree they do sound great.

Originally Posted by buddah knome

I absolutely love the snare on if on you were lonely. Skeletons and ioywl for sure had the most money put behind them and the production shows for sure! I agree they do sound great.

yeah the drums definitely sounded the best on if only, so good. im a drummer and thats my favorite part of that album.

Originally Posted by ACA

The first two albums were laughably awful, so I haven't given them much of a chance since then (I mean, why bother, there are tons of legit bands who I'd rather support).

Do they still play a lot of old material live, or is this pretty much a new, reinvented band that just keeps the same old name for business purposes?

I'm sure the hate will flow freely (especially in a thread dedicated to Hawthorne Heights), but truthfully, I'd be more willing to give this new, seemingly well-reviewed band a shot if it wasn't attached to the Hawthorne Heights name. I'm not the only one. /honesty

If anyone wants to discuss that aspect of Hawthorne Heights (would they be more respected with a different name? would they be less? more commercially successful? less?) intelligently, feel free to quote this. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll receive the standard "fuck you" posts/private messages.

If a new Design the Skyline album were to get rave reviews, I don't see why I wouldn't check it out. Bands can produce great material regardless of their name and previous songs. Don't let The Silence in Black and White define Hope for you.

Originally Posted by poppunkwayo

yeah the drums definitely sounded the best on if only, so good. im a drummer and thats my favorite part of that album.

Im the same way, the drums are one of my favorite part of that album. I think skeletons was the best vocally. Howard kicked JT's ass in the vocal booth on skeletons and it really payed off!

not a fan of the creepy child's voice in the songs, but other than that solid EP. I still listen to IOYWL from time to time, I'm happy HH is still a band I still love. haha