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09:11 AM on 09/12/12
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People, the distribution responsibility and ultimatley the manufacturing error is all in a third parties hands. Circa has absolutely no control over a third parties mistakes. You all are so stupid.
10:06 AM on 09/12/12
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Tell them to spend more money and hire a third party that can deliver the product on time...it sure as hell isn't my fault. It's been over 2 weeks and no one's order has arrived. How bout they get their money when I get their product? Nope. They get their money immediately and we wait forever for our product.
So youre either implying that a) they knew the company they went with has a bad track record from the beginning but didnt care because it was cheaper, despite you having no evidence of this, or b) that none of the above is true, but they should have foreseen these circumstances and done something magical to thwart them. Neither is reasonable. It's not reasonable to say it's your fault and it's not reasonable to say it's the bands fault. I sure as hell hope youre not implying you deserve their product for free when it does arrive. Your logic is flawed.
11:40 AM on 09/12/12
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You're being the stupid one here. It's not ALL in the third parties hands. The band (like labels) should plan accordingly in case something goes wrong. Get your stuff to the plant earlier and don't charge people money for something you're going to be this late on. It doesn't effect me cause this album sucks but it's
Still a bummer to see something like this going on.
You think they should essentially pay two companies to follow through with manufacturing (back up plan). You think they didnt follow proper protocol in accordance to how soon they "shipped to the plant." And on top of that, now the product should be free of charge. Yeah okay....

Whats that popular saying? In a perfect world something, something unlimited funds
11:45 AM on 09/12/12
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I was about to say...it's topspin media that's handling this, not Circa directly. But I've heard in the past that Topspin are terrible, so what I want to know is why they still went with them.
Please correct me if Im wrong here, but Topspin doesnt handle manufacturing.
12:26 PM on 09/12/12
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you're right we totally should have just built a cd/vinyl factory and made them ourselves.
This is seemingly what these people expect. Strange
12:30 PM on 09/12/12
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I'm implying that I shouldn't have been charged until my product was shipped. Like every other website does when you pre-order something.
There was more to your last post than that but, I understand what you said in this post. I would maintain that it makes no difference if you pay for something now or later if you are to own it. I guess thats sort of an opinion.
12:38 PM on 09/12/12
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Not what I said. You don't pay for the backup plan until you have to. If they had gotten the stuff to the plant sooner they would have had time to fix it. And yes of course they/the plant have to pay for the mistake It's not the fans fault. It's unlucky but it's how shit works
Yes, the plant should have to pay for wasted materials. The music should not however be free to fans out of the bands pocket for third party mistakes.
01:36 PM on 09/12/12
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It's not free. The people paid for it
No, the people are not being asked to pay extra for a manufacturing mistake.
01:39 PM on 09/12/12
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It does make a difference. It makes the company and band meet their release date times instead of being 2+ weeks late.
Initially your original post had a lot of ignorant things to say. However, I agree with what you have to say above, but disagree that it is inherently the bands fault.
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