[tommylin]

I've overcome a myriad of addictions, but am still in the process of deprogramming from the addictions. Its never ending.

Addictions don't just pertain to physical cravings, but emotional and social as well.

[tommylin]

Too all the individuals talking about food as it relates to addiction. Yeah food is very addictive because of all the additives and chemicals loaded into processed foods. The government and corporations have an agenda to keep us at a low state, and with food we have been manipulated and controlled by the standard american diet. All processed foods are denatured and thus altered to fit the consumption in the form of pleasure. The pleasure comes at a price.

My motto is : eat to live....eat organic foods, increase your vegetable and fruit uptake. You will feel much better physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually etc. If you keep this up you will be able to control your addiction and not let the addiction control you. If you want to start taking control of your diet, make that first step. Set your mind to it.

[tommylin]

Originally Posted by ari telescope

Not to be offensive and the advice is appreciated, but it's old news, we're all aware. It's not that someone like me is misinformed, in fact aside from the cravings I am always doing my best to eat as organic, soy or vegetarian as possible (with the absolute exception of the aforementioned two months) because I know that I have to with my habits. Because it's not that I'm addicted to only junk food, like give me a box of herb-garden organic crackers and I'll still stuff as much as I can because they taste so good. I work very hard to not be 300 pounds with as stupid as I am about eating. As far as fruits and vegetables, I do enjoy them and do eat at least one every day, but I get bored very easily. Food lovers love flavor and textures and savory. And really what it comes down to is the comfort of being addicted to something, not the lack of knowledge.


Edit: like what the fu who thinks this much about their relationship with food. After this round of weight-loss I'm going to see a counselor and get this shit normal so that I don't end up here again.

Herb-garden organic crackers is still junk food, like i said its processed and denatured does not matter if they slap that organic label on it. I guess i should clarify and say that when i mean organic foods i meant whole foods.

So the addiction is not just from the foods, there are other issues that you have that need to be addressed. Its not about just changing your diet, its about changing you mentality with food and whatever it is in your life that triggers the food comforts.

If you set your mind to eat to live, you will be sustained with a balanced portion of foods and if you have your mind set to live to eat then thats what your reality will come to be.

Going to a counselor may help, but in the end you are the one who has to change. The counselor can't do that for you.

[tommylin]

Originally Posted by ari telescope

Yes, I thought you had read our discussion about food because this is what we were saying... I mentioned I gained 30 pounds in two months when my dad went through chemo. I think you misunderstood what we were saying, I don't know.

An addiction to anything is because of the emotional comfort you associate with it, as bad for your health as it may be. Just because its food doesn't make it not an addiction. Marijuana is not addictive, but plenty of people here admitted to being addicted to it because of, again, the emotional comfort in times of stress.

And your comment about the counselor is obvious, guy. Everyone knows a counselor can't help you with any change if you aren't willing to help yourself so I don't know why you're telling me that. Also I think I meant "therapist-type counselor" if that's why you made that comment.

I understand that that was a difficult time for you, but to me your using that as excuse for you taking yourself out of the context of taking care of yourself and being responsible for your own well-being. In the end, we are the ones responsible for ourselves not others which from your post about the therapist you seem to understand.

An addiction comes from all areas not just emotional. Its physical (your bodies reaction to triggers whether it be chemicals or shit put into your system), mental (no discipline), and spiritual (degenerated spirit, lack of self). Also marijuana is addictive because of the high you get from it. Marijuana was not intended to be smoked, anything burnt should not be ingested into the body. Plus they put tons of chemicals and bullshit into it nowadays to increase the high you get from it to make it even more addictive.

So if you understand this concept therapist, then why are you going to him/her to get "help"?



Know that my intention is not to make you feel bad. I am just expressing my own insights into this matter.

[tommylin]

Originally Posted by ari telescope

For the record, I don't know who you're getting your marijuana from that puts in chemicals and shit, anything at all, into it, but that's just not right. That's what shady drug dealers do. Maybe because of where I live haha, but real shops and legit growers would never do that.

I'm going to a therapist because I need someone to listen to me and to give me an outlet to express my frustrations and weak times. I need someone to talk to to in an effort to manage the way I manage my emotional issues. I just need someone to fucking talk to who doesn't judge me. All of these things help me in controlling myself. I also have a problem that when I do lose weight, I freak out over the change and that starts the cycle of relapse again.

Which leads me to acknowledging that I know you're not trying to make me feel bad and are just providing insight, but you're the reason I can only talk about this with other people who understand it. It's such a unique addiction that people like you cannot even wrap your mind about why it's even as big a problem as it is and say things like "it's called put the fucking fork down." But thanks.

Have you ever heard of GMO's or genetically modified organisms? All marijuana is genetically modified, just the way the government likes it. So on top of that if you aren't growing your own stuff...your getting a largely modified version of the original cannabis sativa on top of all those nasty chemicals. This type of high can be seriously addictive to the unstable individual.

You can only talk to people so much until you have to face yourself to make the change. once again i re-state, its not just about one aspect of you that has to change...its in addition to the other ones.

[tommylin]

Originally Posted by kianacarly

I don't get how this is relevant to what we were talking about at all. There is a difference between eating junk because it tastes good and not being able to stop, and eating because you need to fill some emotional void. The problem is not with the additives in food, but the mindset that tells you that food equals comfort. Eating can be a comfort, or it can be a punishment, such as being down on yourself and then eating a bunch of greasy junk to punish your body. It is more of a psychological issue.

...What? It has everything to do with it. The additives plus the emotional comforts both play an equal role in the addiction. People underestimate the addictive power of salt and refined white sugar as well as the many other components within junk food. Nature does not present you with foods that causes unhealthy cravings towards it. Only when man steps in and manipulates the food process does the following occur.

And when you add that on to the stressors of society, boom....it is quite easy to see how someone can become so attached to food.