Ya my bad I got real baked up before making this thread and was pretty much talking out my ass. Actually a few of those bands I didn't know predated ptw
haha. I guess melodic metalcore was more what I was going for but The Opposite is the earliest record I've heard that follows that standard metalcore formula. My bad I didn''t want to come off as an uninformed douche telling the world about my expertise. I'll have that edited. Interested to see your opinion on their ranking however.