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07:13 AM on 12/18/12
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Man, dude is just wondering about stuff on twitter. No indication he'd actually write anything, and unless he's got some personal journals to publish I don't see anything coming out. Millions of people say they'll write something and never actually do anything about it.
11:59 AM on 12/18/12
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I remember seeing Frank live and him hitting some ridiculous notes, while mostly just sounding way smooth. Don't think the dude could just write a novel like nothing, but he's a quality song-writer and vocalist for sure.
06:42 PM on 12/18/12
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This thread got weird and confusing. I like Frank Ocean, dude writes songs I enjoy. I think he is great writer/singer. Totally down to admit that if I only listened to above average singers I would probably have to lose most of the artists I love. Any arguments about philosophies on criticism seem like huuuuuuge wastes of time.
08:16 PM on 12/18/12
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I really don't understand this sudden surge/trend of musicians thinking they can successfully write and distribute a decent book, of any kind.
I totally agree with you, its a general trend with people wanting to say they're writers, or thinking they're writers, when they've actually never really written anything. Frank may be a great song writer, but a novel is a completely different process that I doubt many musicians would be able to successfully complete.

But more importantly, this is just an off-hand comment he made about how cool it would be if he just dropped a novel next year. There's no indication that he'd actually write one, just like there's no reason to believe he'd design a stadium. Not a serious statement at all.
07:18 AM on 12/19/12
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I'm just giggling at 60-year-old criticism that's been responded to, critiqued, argued against, refined, etc. endlessly by scholars in the interim being tossed out like a holy text that proves Frank Ocean is objectively not good. Jesus. New Criticism in its pure form is seriously ancient at this point.

Edit: There'd be a lot more to discuss if you were namedropping, say, Stanley Fish.
Nice name drop.

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