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08:25 AM on 12/19/12
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According to a different article, he's conspired to rape a one year old girl. What in the actual fuck.
08:29 AM on 12/19/12
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nevermind all of the other articles are probably wrong.
08:34 AM on 12/19/12
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I read three of them before the court hearing, they must have changed since. I take 99% of stuff from English papers with a pinch of salt. But the Independant saying that is pretty damning. If true scumbag should be locked up forever. Ashamed I used to listen to them.
Yeah, I didn't even look at that until now. Just did a quick google search. Regardless, the situation is stomach churning.
08:37 AM on 12/19/12
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I read that too. seriously. god damnit
Either way, it's atrocious.
08:40 AM on 12/19/12
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If you believe that one year old shit, you're insane.

Fact is, band sluts are getting younger and younger these days. He's weak, for sure; but I guarantee there was never any forced rape involved.
Even so, he's a grown man and should be able to realize that this is completely wrong. Pretty sure most thirteen year olds aren't mature enough to legitimately consent, and therefore, yes, this is rape.
08:46 AM on 12/19/12
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Yes. It's legally rape.

13-year-olds consent to this shit every single day, though. Our culture is sexualizing these young girls.

That's what's wrong here.
The "if you dress that way, you're asking for it" mentality is what's wrong here. You don't know this girl. Even IF she did dress provocatively, it is HIS fault for acting on anything. HE should know better. She's a thirteen year old girl. If two thirteen year olds wanna do it, then, okay, whatever, but regardless, he should have enough self control. There's a reason the legal age is 16-18, because anybody younger than that is not legally considered to be mature enough for consent in a situation like this.
08:49 AM on 12/19/12
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Why am I supposed to be outraged at culture right now instead of the dude running a child porn ring?
This. Jesus Christ.
08:55 AM on 12/19/12
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Well, yeah but the fact he wasn't being bashed right away I found interesting. The mere "rumor" of JC would cause a shit storm.

Or like when that Blood on the dance floor guy was charged.....everyone was talking shit about him.
I don't see anybody talking about how this is great.
09:09 AM on 12/19/12
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The '13' argument is irrelevant, we are talking about a one year old girl here. An infant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20785456

I am so disgusted.
Some articles say one year, others say 13.
09:42 AM on 12/19/12
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They say under 13. Usually used when the child in question is a pre-teen

The ones that say 13 are the ones from before he was in court this afternoon.

Yeah, I just realized. My bad, dudes.

I thought it was both? Either way, when you are demented enough to go after a 13 year old, it wouldn't surprise me if it was like a game to him. Fucking sick.

Regardless, like you and Chris have both said, there's no rationalizing anything thirteen or under. It would be potentially different if the girl had been seventeen and looked older but the legitimacy of mistaking a 13 year old as legal is unlikely.
10:01 AM on 12/19/12
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If this is true, I have to wonder if his band-mates knew about it. Doesn't seem like it was something he was private about if he was conspiring with others.

Especially if it was happening while they were on tour. Like having a bunch of small underaged girls wasn't a red flag. I don't feel sorry for the band largely in part of this.

lol I love that a lot of the posts in here are "I hope this isn't true because I like the band" not "Thank god they stopped this monster" or "I hope it isn't true because that means children weren't being raped"

And like you said earlier, that posts are people feeling sorry for the band, who probably knew what was going on, rather than, hey, I feel sorry for the kids.
12:20 PM on 12/19/12
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13 year old girls have eyes and ears. They can make decisions. It's not like they're retarded...right?
They're not legally mature enough to make those decisions. There's a reason a legal age limit exists. If I acted on half of the shit I wanted to do at that age, I'd probably be dead or something. Kids don't know what they want most of the time.
12:21 PM on 12/19/12
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13 year old girls have eyes and ears. They can make decisions. It's not like they're retarded...right?
It boils down to not being able to give legitimate consent.
12:36 PM on 12/19/12
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I agree, kids are dumb. Yet, teens are taken seriously when they claim they want to be in the NFL, or they come out as gay, or they kill someone. But when they decide to have sex with someone, they become a "victim".
If the LP frontman forcibly raped someone, lock him up. If it was consensual, he's an idiot, but so is the girl for thinking she'd live happily ever after with her emo prince.
He should know better than to even prey on girls to begin with. Even if it's "consensual", it still really isn't, because there is no competent legal consent. It's the same reason bestiality, aside from being disgusting, is illegal. There's no way for an animal to consent. It's the same principle, really. He is an adult man, who I am sure can get plenty of poontang elsewhere. It's a conscious decision on his part to go through an illegal act as such, because he KNOWS what he is getting into with that situation. I know kids are growing up faster these days, but that's no real excuse for his behavior.
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