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05:53 PM on 01/22/13
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Nice dudes and all, but another band that needs to just call it a day, or change your name and start over because no one will care about this release.
They're still able to sell out tours playing 800 cap rooms and their last record sold 12k first week, despite it being self-released and them moving away from their bubblegum pop sound. They're making enough money that it pays all of their bills and then some. It's not like their a band like Rookie of the Year that is still releasing records but can barely draw 30 kids to a show.
05:54 PM on 01/22/13
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Pioneer sold pretty well independently.
I think that it should also be noted that the "independent" label they released it through is their own label.
11:02 AM on 01/24/13
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Haha... if you think 800 kids a night and 12k first week is paying their bills (not the bands as a whole), but their individual bills, you're not very smart. Nothing against them, its just a losing effort at this point. Please message me the sound scan numbers for the first week of this new release.
I did merch for them between 2009-2011; The dudes all get by comfortably. You don't have to shit on bands in the scene just because your band fucking bombed after On Fire and didn't even really do much before that.

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