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09:12 PM on 03/27/13
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I mean... Was this meant as hate? I didn't read too much into the story but I call people ******s all the with no homophobic intention what so ever. If this was meant as gay hate, well then yeah, fuck that venue.
just because you dont intend for it to be homophobic doesn't mean it isn't.
09:19 PM on 03/27/13
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you're gonna need to be more specific
09:21 PM on 03/27/13
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Haha woaaaaaaah everyone. I say it to my friends. Never meant with a gay context or whatever. If you don't agree with that, fair enough. I'm very pro gay rights. I'm just too lazy to click the links to figure out if he called an actual homosexual that word out of hate. Didn't mean to piss people off.
you should probably reassess your usage of that word. even using it with friends is perpetuating hate speech.
09:45 PM on 03/27/13
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With that mindset, you're no better than people on the other side of the spectrum.
please explain to me why we should be tolerant of racism, discrimination, and hate. id love to hear your reasoning.
10:31 PM on 03/27/13
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Gay rights have clearly become a tough topic but one that is no longer ignored by anyone, those who support it and those that don't. Especially with what's going on in social news and networks, EVERYONE is talking about it. So I think even those who, like myself and most of the people in this thread know that by no means are hateful people and words okay or acceptable. But, we cannot be like the very people we despise.

There are FAR too many people in this country and around the world that were born and raised to believe things are meant to be a certain way. When your parents from day one put a book in front of you and tell you this is how life is and how it was meant to be, you accept it and believe it. Tolerance on both sides needs to be had before we can really think everyone will ever be on the same page.
explain to me why we need to be tolerant of hate.
08:02 AM on 03/28/13
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I know people dont like it, but i dont think jew is offensive, its short for jewish. i dont understand
Jew is not offensive.
08:10 AM on 03/28/13
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The funniest part is people using a stand up comedian to justify their use of hate speech. He's a fucking vulgar comedian it's his job to make people laugh while being offensive. You aren't.
08:35 AM on 03/28/13
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LOL @ most of hypocrites that have most likely used the "******" word in conversation but act like they never have and take such offense when it's used.

I don't condone it but c'mon, most of you have probably heard/used that word growing up in school and never thought twice about it
of course i used it at some point in my life, but when i got older and became a better human being i realized how fucking terrible of a word it is.
08:46 AM on 03/28/13
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i dont think louis would agree with your conclusions about the message of that particular scene, or admit that he was trying to convey any particular message at all... the scene DOES end with nick dipaolo making a ****** joke
i dont think you understand comedy. the entire point of offensive comedy is to make light of serious, heavy topics. nick dipaolo's crack at the end is there to relieve tension, but the rest of the scene is what matters and the message is clearly about what ****** means to people that have been called it their whole life.
08:59 AM on 03/28/13
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it can be...it's all about context and the intent.
example: i just got jewed
you freaking jew(calling somebody a Jew who really isn't for being selfish)
anything with hateful context is hateful yes. but the word Jew, on its own, is not offensive
09:00 AM on 03/28/13
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It's all about the intention behind it. It carries the same weight as retard and fa_got and all the other hate words depending on how you use it. You can say, "2 Jews walked into a bar". You can't really say "That asshole Jewed me out of a dollar!".
your second example uses jew as a verb which is definitely undeniably offensive and not what im talking about.
09:07 AM on 03/28/13
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Completely unprofessional move by the promoter, but it is interesting to see how much weight and power we give a word. I've never let it bother me
as a straight male you are really brave and powerful for not letting the word bother you, kudos.
09:17 AM on 03/28/13
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I am against the use of homophobic language. But to play devil's advocate, why is "the n word" acceptable in hip-hop? Does it not also promote hate? Yes, I know the way it is used is not hateful, but that is also the argument for why people say "******" even when talking with friends. If we are cracking down on "******", why not also "the n word"? Why does this site cover top 40 hip-hop artists? Don't respond with "smh", I'm not trolling and am genuinely curious in the difference.
edit - i misread your post, i'll be back with a real answer
09:21 AM on 03/28/13
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So you don't listen to Danny Brown?
how did you get that out of what i said?
09:26 AM on 03/28/13
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He uses the n-word pretty excessively. No necessarily hate most of the time, but excessive.
shit i completely misread his post and didnt realize the n word was what he was talking about i was talking about the f word.
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