drew says "it's just there" haha. i think a lot of people will be very neutral on it - which is a bad thing in my opinion. i'd be a lot more "neutral" about it if they weren't such a good band
I think I remember earlier on he said something more positive but yeah I'm pretty neutral too. I don't like the album but I can see what they were going for and think the guys behind it are so hard working that I can't really hate it.