Both these bands suck balls, along with most of Victory's roster.
These are the bands that have definate talent, Bayside, BTBAM, Darkest Hour, Comeback Kid, The Sleeping (iffy) and Streetlight Manifesto.
I only really listen to Streetlight though but respect the other bands.
Also The Audition are one of the shittiest bands out there.
endwell should should the fuck up already & accept what happend. Emmure can beat em musically & probably physically. defending yourselves over myspace posts make you look like a big baby crying over spilled milk.
Strange. Not sure what any of this has to do with Victory. This remiinds me of the East Coast vs. West Coast rap wars! I am from NYC and there is alot more to this than meets the eye. Danny from Endwell messed around with Jack from Bayside's girlfriend when Bayside was on tour a year or so ago. That killed the Bayside / Endwell relationship and I know that Brummel was pissed off about that and got on Endwell's case about their behaivor. The same Danny from Endwell also messed around with Frankie's (singer from Emmure) girfriend a couple of years ago. What a nice guy! It seems like Endwell are a bunch of crybabies because they got dropped, lost 3 original band members and then got kicked off of a tour for acting like morons when they were already on thin ice. If Emmure were real jerks they could actually really spill the beans. I am not into Kurt Angle though....