Pretty much this. I fell into the trap 5 years ago, and I actually like the hung up EP, noise from upstairs, basically acoustic MO that would be fun to write and play with your friends. But LP releases and their subsequent success is based off of self hype. I saw them in basements 5 years ago when I lived in NJ, and saw them last night for the first time since with Cartel. What a horrible fucking band MO is. I almost left. Cartel, on the other hand, is one of the most tight sounding bands I've heard in the pop punk sense. Wish they got more love.