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Geoff Rickly Talks with Pitchfork

Posted by - 02:21 PM on 07/02/14
Geoff Rickly recently sat down with Pitchfork to talk about punk, music, and United Nations.
What we get in punk these days is the “anti-anti”: Someone comes up with something, then the next generation is against that, and then the next generation is against that, and then that thing becomes a problem. There's these layers of anti-, and so many of them are just so self-serving. It's not about larger freedom. Laura Jane Grace and Against Me! are one of the only punk rock things I've seen in years. And that's what [The Next Four Years] is about, starting with "Serious Business" as a joke about careerism and privilege and how blind we all are. All these songs are set up as jokes, and the punchlines are actually incredibly sad.
 
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02:22 PM on 07/02/14
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Cool interview. I love how he describes the band as an art project.
02:22 PM on 07/02/14
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Disappointed he wasn't asked about this review:
These guys bring 'taking themselves too seriously' to a level few bands have ever even considered. I'm all for the serious approach to music, but enough is enough. When Geoff Rickly sings, "Discard this message/ Throw this bottle back into the ocean/ Rip this page from the history books/ Smash all the street signs/ Erase all the maps/ Forget my name, forget my face/ Because it's gonna rain, it's gonna rain/ And it never ends," on "Paris in Flames," I had to stifle laughter. He's got a good sense of melody, and he's trying his damnedest to sell this, but a little angst goes a long way-- in this case, out of the ballpark, over the parking lot, and into the strip mall with that skeezy porno store next to the donut shop. Maybe I'm just not fourteen enough to enjoy this stuff anymore, but after having twelve tracks worth of tastelessly over-the-top melodrama hammered into my forebrain, I was ready to call it quits.
02:29 PM on 07/02/14
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If Against Me! is one of the only punk things he's seen in years, he must be very disconnected from punk rock.
02:31 PM on 07/02/14
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This speaks to a larger trend I couldn't help but notice at this year's warped tour. In years past, the ethos of the tour has always been deeply rooted in counter culture. The "punk" movement was all about telling the establishment "fuck your rules, I'm in control of my own life." But now it's just...trendy. The environment is almost completely the opposite of the original intention: instead of spurning what everyone else thinks, kids are engrossed by it. Geoff has it exactly correct, it's self-serving and not in the interest of larger freedom. /oldmanrant
02:45 PM on 07/02/14
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At the time, he met serious resistance from the rest of Thursday, who sought to go in a more accessible direction—and thankfully, they won out: the resulting Dave Fridmann-produced A City By the Light Divided still stands as that band’s finest hour.

damn right it does
02:45 PM on 07/02/14
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If Against Me! is one of the only punk things he's seen in years, he must be very disconnected from punk rock.
I honestly don't know if I agree or disagree. Haha. He makes some very interesting and valid points about what punk is and how it's acting in the present day.
02:47 PM on 07/02/14
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This speaks to a larger trend I couldn't help but notice at this year's warped tour. In years past, the ethos of the tour has always been deeply rooted in counter culture. The "punk" movement was all about telling the establishment "fuck your rules, I'm in control of my own life." But now it's just...trendy. The environment is almost completely the opposite of the original intention: instead of spurning what everyone else thinks, kids are engrossed by it. Geoff has it exactly correct, it's self-serving and not in the interest of larger freedom. /oldmanrant
02:47 PM on 07/02/14
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Disappointed he wasn't asked about this review:
Do you think Geoff was insincere when he wrote those words, or too serious? Or are you critiquing the review itself? Honestly not sure.
02:55 PM on 07/02/14
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great interview, geoff rules
03:03 PM on 07/02/14
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I honestly don't know if I agree or disagree. Haha. He makes some very interesting and valid points about what punk is and how it's acting in the present day.
I wrote that before I read the article, he does clarify a bit of what he's saying, but I mean... there are so many bands out there who live by DIY, fuck-what-you-think ethos and still make killer music regardless of whether it comes from the punk tradition (fast, gritty, guitars) or not.
03:15 PM on 07/02/14
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I wrote that before I read the article, he does clarify a bit of what he's saying, but I mean... there are so many bands out there who live by DIY, fuck-what-you-think ethos and still make killer music regardless of whether it comes from the punk tradition (fast, gritty, guitars) or not.
My stance has forever been that punk isn't the music you play, it's why/how you play it. For example, Waylon Jennings was always punx in my head.
03:25 PM on 07/02/14
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Do you think Geoff was insincere when he wrote those words, or too serious? Or are you critiquing the review itself? Honestly not sure.
I think the review is garbage. Too bad emorevival wasn't hip back then -- that album deserved to be appreciated.
03:33 PM on 07/02/14
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I think the review is garbage. Too bad emorevival wasn't hip back then -- that album deserved to be appreciated.
Were Tumblr around, it would have imploded.
03:38 PM on 07/02/14
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There's some truth to this quote : "The future of punk rock has nothing to do with guitars. Everything interesting that I've heard in years has been nearly all electronic."

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