Todd Bertuzzi

[emokid2]

I would suspend this coward for a fucking year :mad:

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I'm watching him speak to the media right now, he's an emotional wreck. He definitely didn't mean to hurt him. I want him to get a 15-20 game suspension anyways.

[varock]

that was a pussy shot

[MassPunkRock]

I'm watching him speak to the media right now, he's an emotional wreck. He definitely didn't mean to hurt him. I want him to get a 15-20 game suspension anyways.
i agree with u about him not inteding to but u have to be responsible for ur actions. He obviously has to pay the price. personally, i believe he should be charged in a criminal court. if someone took revenge on another like that on the street and it was caught on camera, the perp. would be charged. bertuzzi hit him from behind, he was so shameless that he didnt even try to make it look like a clean hit or even self defense.

[FarPastGone]

He just got suspended by the league for the rest of the year, and all of the playoffs....the Stars fans are very happy.

[towhatend]

Yes it was a dirty hit and should of never happened but the reality of it is this: The NHL should have suspened Steve Moore for his dirty hit on Naslund 2 weeks ago. It was clearly a dirty hit and if The Nhl would have taken some action none of this would have happened. The players should not have to hand out punishments, The NHL should.

[lifepostponed10]

Yes it was a dirty hit and should of never happened but the reality of it is this: The NHL should have suspened Steve Moore for his dirty hit on Naslund 2 weeks ago. It was clearly a dirty hit and if The Nhl would have taken some action none of this would have happened. The players should not have to hand out punishments, The NHL should.

u gonna point there

[BuriedAlive]

ok, I don't see what is so wrong with the hit. Hits like that are always thrown in hockey. Sadly its become apart of the game. Ya, he shouldn't have fallen with him. Ya, the hits were uncalled for. Bertuzzi is a real good player. His action were uncalled for. But, the suspension was also. I think it was sort of extreme for it. They need to get a set amount for hits thrown as in punishment. This whole thing is bull. I think hockey has already lost most of its flavor. The fights made it more exciting but at the same time destroyed it. If they could clean it up, maybe they could start throwing fines but until then I say it's just apart of the game let it be.

[mwhpunk]

.......is dumb

[hXc_pwnage]

Yeah...he needed to be suspended. He injured the guy PRETTY bad. Plus, it was super cheap.

But damn, that was a HUGE fucking blow. Wouldn't want to piss him off.

[boysdontcry]

bertuzzi is a bitch. i mean he's a good hockey player, but i don't think just the fact that you're playing hockey constitutes for the act of breaking someone's neck. i heard that moore's lucky he's not paralyzed. i'm not a fan of either the Avs or the canucks (actually i really don't like either of them), but still moore didn't deserve that. he deserved a little bit, but not THAT much.

but yeah bertuzzi's hit was seriously like a mortal kombat move. i stand by my idea that they should have a hockey/mortal kombat video game that features the league's biggest assholes in ninja outfits.

[hXc_pwnage]

Hahahaha, that made me laugh out loud boysdontcry. Truly great.

But yeah...that was too much. I wouldn't be too shocked if he was pressed with charges...and I wouldn't argue it too much, either.

[BuriedAlive]

You make it seem like he wanted to hurt the guy that bad. He just wanted to get him back. I don't think he thought that he was going to break his neck. I'm sure that part was an accident. He was only trying to throw a hit. I didn't watch the game, but I did see the hit, because the media has blown this whole situation out of proportion. Its outrageous that this one out of all the other hits thrown that have done almost as much damage, have gone unnoticed.

[Trainsaw]

He just got suspended by the league for the rest of the year, and all of the playoffs....the Stars fans are very happy.
yes we are

[towhatend]

ok, I don't see what is so wrong with the hit. Hits like that are always thrown in hockey. Sadly its become apart of the game. Ya, he shouldn't have fallen with him. Ya, the hits were uncalled for. Bertuzzi is a real good player. His action were uncalled for. But, the suspension was also. I think it was sort of extreme for it. They need to get a set amount for hits thrown as in punishment. This whole thing is bull. I think hockey has already lost most of its flavor. The fights made it more exciting but at the same time destroyed it. If they could clean it up, maybe they could start throwing fines but until then I say it's just apart of the game let it be.

Hits like that are not always thrown in hockey, sorry but it has not become a apart of the game as illistrated by Bertuzzi being suspended. THe Bertuzzi hit was not a "hockey fight" it was a sucker punch, that isn't apart of the game.

[BuriedAlive]

Hits like that are not always thrown in hockey, sorry but it has not become a apart of the game as illistrated by Bertuzzi being suspended. THe Bertuzzi hit was not a "hockey fight" it was a sucker punch, that isn't apart of the game.
and hockey fights are any more idealistic? more of the real game? i feel hockey fights should be banned. it's stupid. there aren't even suspensions. just penalty minutes. yeah, its fun to watch. but play to 35-40 has to be pretty hard.

(im not disagreeing with you all about Bertuzzi. I just felt someone should take his side to make this more interesting)

[BanMe]

Moore's hit on Naslund was clean, Naslund said it himself. If Naslund had his head up he wouldn't have been hurt. Bertuzzi has a history of marginal hits and cheap shots, that should be considered. He should be out as long as Moore.

[towhatend]

and hockey fights are any more idealistic? more of the real game? i feel hockey fights should be banned. it's stupid. there aren't even suspensions. just penalty minutes. yeah, its fun to watch. but play to 35-40 has to be pretty hard.

(im not disagreeing with you all about Bertuzzi. I just felt someone should take his side to make this more interesting)
I wasn't taking sides, i was just telling it how it is, Bert is my favourite player. I don't agree that fights should be banned, why change the game now? Players don't play 35-40 minutes a game, max 30 minutes and that's only for a top defencemen.

[Snake]

Ok I don't know if people still come to this forum or not but I have to comment since I am a die-hard Canuck fan.
What Bertuzi did was of course not part of hockey. He did it out of frustration. I don't know how many of you actually play hockey or have played it but up here in Canada it is basically religion. So well all I can basically say from my own experiences is that during a hockey game there is so much emotion and adrenaline going through you and everything is moving so fast and add to the fact its a physical game sometimes you do things without thinking. I am sure Bertuzzi did not mean to break his neck and an argument can be made that it was the Avalanche players that jumped on Bert after the punch and the preceding pile that could of done that. But well I really don't think he deserved the whole playoff's. If Colin Campbell, Gary Betman and most of the american media understood hockey then I think they would be a bit more sympothetic.
Finally I have to say like I will everyday that the INSTIGATOR RULE MUST GO. By creating the instigator rule the NHL has just gotten itself into deeper shit with highsticks and incidents like this. After Naslund got hit someone could of beat the shit out of Moore right then and there and only get a 5 minute penalty and this would of been over with. Now with the fear of getting anditional 2 minutes and a game for instigating no one did anything and all of this boiled over until it came to a climax. If there was no instigator Bertuzzi could of dropped the gloves and punched Moore a few times and he wouldnt have a broken neck. Hockey fights is not what is wrong with the game it is people who don't understand it being allowed to run and ruin it. In the 1970's hockey was filled with a lot more fighting, LESS high sticking and LESS cheap shots like this. Players had respect for one another back then and if someone broke that respect well they just got some punchyes thrown at them. Why because there was no instigator rule. Circa 1990's hockey and what do we get more rules to "save" the game, but what do we actually get. Low TV ratings, failing markets, trouble scoring and even the possiblity of there not even being a season next year. So yeah how about we get rid of the instigator and just watch things straighten themselves out from there.

[boysdontcry]

Finally I have to say like I will everyday that the INSTIGATOR RULE MUST GO.
ditto

[BanMe]

Please, I've watched and played hockey most of my life. What Bertuzzi did was wrong, and he did intend to hurt Moore. He drove his face into the ice. Don't try to play this off as "oh those americans don't understand hockey like we do." Bertuzzi got a slap on the wrist, but his whole team has to suffer for his stupidity. Bertuzzi still could've dropped the gloves and beat up Moore, face to face. He chose to be a coward about it, and now he has to pay the price. Moore fought Matt Cooke earlier in the game, that should have been enough. Especially considering the size difference between Moore and Bertuzzi. Canucks fans trying to marginalize this make me sick, I'm glad your team won't be making any noise this spring. No rule changes will ever substitute for common sense and common decency.

[Snake]

Bertuzzi still could've dropped the gloves and beat up Moore, face to face.

Ok you say you know hockey but where in there did you not see what I said about the instigator rule. If he would of dropped them he would of got kicked out maybe suspended a game or fined. He was probably thinking he could then just give him a punch instead and either getting Moore to drop them after that or get a roughing penalty. Of course he drilled him and yeah the rest is history but the only reason he punched him like that was because of this instigator.

[BanMe]

No, Bertuzzi STILL could've hit him in the face, or grabbed him and spun him around. If he was thinking clearly enough to know that he'd be suspended for dropping the gloves first, he had to have known that worse things would've happened for drilling someone in the back the head! Please.

Gary Bettman has screwed up lots of things, but to pin this on him is asinine. Bertuzzi has to take responsibility for his own actions and Canucks fans have to realize that, yes, one of their beloved players did something wrong and now has to pay for it. The displacement of blame here is amazing. No one forced Bertuzzi to do what he did. He's an adult, and adults can make rational decisions.

[xnotedgex]

Ok you say you know hockey but where in there did you not see what I said about the instigator rule. If he would of dropped them he would of got kicked out maybe suspended a game or fined. He was probably thinking he could then just give him a punch instead and either getting Moore to drop them after that or get a roughing penalty. Of course he drilled him and yeah the rest is history but the only reason he punched him like that was because of this instigator.

you're an idiot...but no one really cares about hockey outside of the cities that have teams so it's no biggie...i predict professional hockey will be a thing of the past soon and good riddance

[Snake]

you're an idiot...but no one really cares about hockey outside of the cities that have teams so it's no biggie...i predict professional hockey will be a thing of the past soon and good riddance
No you're the idiot maybe in the states yes but not in Europe or Canada. I really could care less if many of the stateside NHL teams left the league cause I know there are some cities up here who would love teams. Except for maybe teams like Philly, Detroit etc that have some respect but hell take Phoienix, Florida, Carolina etc and do away with them and their fans. They would would get a lot more support and apreciation up here or in Europe. And as for a thing of the past as long as their is Canada there is hockey it doesn't matter to us if you guys want to watch it or not. Professional hockey will die with Canada. You like your sports we like Hockey thats ok. But hey maybe they could even have some teams representing cities in Sweden and Russia and have some kind of NHL european division that would be a lot better then in some un-apreciating sun-belt city.

[richter915]

hockey = life...and I'm yet to go to an actual game. I dunno what'll happen with teh future of hockey, it's really shaky...and things like the bertuzzi incident and a couple of others...the league has to crack down on things like that. I think that fights should never ever ever be banned from the game. It's part of the history of the game and it's really good...when tensions build and you wanna go at it with another guy, you drop the gloves. What's worse are bench-clearing brawls in shitty ass american baseball...why aren't people penalized for that...oh ya, it's baseball, they don't have the balls to do shit cause then they'll stop getting fans. Whatever, hockey needs it's fights...you're just ignorant if you think they should do away with it.

[BuriedAlive]

No you're the idiot maybe in the states yes but not in Europe or Canada. I really could care less if many of the stateside NHL teams left the league cause I know there are some cities up here who would love teams. Except for maybe teams like Philly, Detroit etc that have some respect but hell take Phoienix, Florida, Carolina etc and do away with them and their fans. They would would get a lot more support and apreciation up here or in Europe. And as for a thing of the past as long as their is Canada there is hockey it doesn't matter to us if you guys want to watch it or not. Professional hockey will die with Canada. You like your sports we like Hockey thats ok. But hey maybe they could even have some teams representing cities in Sweden and Russia and have some kind of NHL european division that would be a lot better then in some un-apreciating sun-belt city.
i dont really see why Florida has a team. Two teams at that. But hey, Tampa Bay is kicking so ass now. They deserve alot of credit and I know they get alot of support. In the city I live in there is alot of street hockey (because of the weather), and I agree with you on teams like pheonix because it doesnt snow there, but I do not agree with removing them out of Florida. There are a lot of Florida players in hockey.. well, I think there is anyway. ha ha.

[lifepostponed10]

dude y dont they add the european teams to the nhl that would be kick ass. wat bertuzzi did was wrong but i understand he did it out of frustrastion and emotion bcuz i play hockey too. still u got to have sum control.

[FirstPick44]

The lack of fighting, brought about by overpenalization and other attempts to sanitize the game, contributed more to this incident and numerous other injuries than any other factor

I given up trying to explain hockey to anyone who hasnt played or watch...you could sit there for hours trying to describe to someone the unwritten rules/codes in hockey and know they just arent getting it

I played in the WHL from when I was 16-20 and there wasnt a night that went by that we didnt have 2 or 3 fights...if you want to stop fightening in the NHL, you need to curb it at the junior level (whl, ohl, qmjhl, ushl)...the NCAA doesnt allow it and on most European teams, fightening is rare...you cut fightening out, you're looking at a whole generation of players not having a job anymore, but still fightening is slowly fading away from the game...the instigator penalty is the dumbest thing ever, thankgod we didnt have that in the WHL

In my opinion Bertuzzi got what he deserved, regardless if he didnt want to hurt Moore that bad...it was such a violent action, that the only way to begin to make things better was to get Bertuzzi out of the nhl for awhile...Bertuzzi skated up behind Moore, dropped his stick and grabbed a hold of Moore's jesery with his left hand to stablize himself and then just let him have it with the right...he was out to hurt Moore and the fact that the avs were beating the canucks pretty bad in the scoring, Bertuzzi saw his chance and take it...its was selfish and gutless on his part, even if he didnt knock him out, a punch like that would've gotten a suspenion and being in such a tight race for the division lead, it was the wrong time to do it and if he had any idea of a team concept, he would've known better...not the first time he's done something stupid like these, awhile back he left the bench to jump into a fight on the ice and got like 10 games or something

Its hurting the image of the hockey bigtime...it isnt a main stream sport in the states and the only time we get any real press is if something like this happens...In the hockey world this was dramatic but at the sametime you always expect a play like this to happen

There was talk of allowing two European teams to be a part of the NHL...but the only way it really works is if the the league changes from east/west conference to having the top 14 teams and 2 european teams playing in a general playoff format (1 vs 16)...I dont see florida supporting two hockey teams much longer, portland or winnepig are the cities looking to get teams

[FirstPick44]

No you're the idiot maybe in the states yes but not in Europe or Canada. I really could care less if many of the stateside NHL teams left the league cause I know there are some cities up here who would love teams. Except for maybe teams like Philly, Detroit etc that have some respect but hell take Phoienix, Florida, Carolina etc and do away with them and their fans. They would would get a lot more support and apreciation up here or in Europe. And as for a thing of the past as long as their is Canada there is hockey it doesn't matter to us if you guys want to watch it or not. Professional hockey will die with Canada. You like your sports we like Hockey thats ok. But hey maybe they could even have some teams representing cities in Sweden and Russia and have some kind of NHL european division that would be a lot better then in some un-apreciating sun-belt city.

I take it you have never been to a 'yotes game...the canes, thrashers and the pens will be the franchises moved if it ever comes to that

[Snake]

I take it you have never been to a 'yotes game...the canes, thrashers and the pens will be the franchises moved if it ever comes to that
No but I agree they shuld all move except the Pens. They used to have great support and had a minni Dynsty. If they coudl just get a new stadium things will be good there again. Plus they will get some killer draft picks this year and next and Malone will be a great player in a few years.

[towhatend]

Please, I've watched and played hockey most of my life. What Bertuzzi did was wrong, and he did intend to hurt Moore. He drove his face into the ice. Don't try to play this off as "oh those americans don't understand hockey like we do." Bertuzzi got a slap on the wrist, but his whole team has to suffer for his stupidity. Bertuzzi still could've dropped the gloves and beat up Moore, face to face. He chose to be a coward about it, and now he has to pay the price. Moore fought Matt Cooke earlier in the game, that should have been enough. Especially considering the size difference between Moore and Bertuzzi. Canucks fans trying to marginalize this make me sick, I'm glad your team won't be making any noise this spring. No rule changes will ever substitute for common sense and common decency.

What he got was a fair punishment not a slap on the wrist. You're right aobut his team being the ones suffering though. But explain to me why the Canucks were fined $250,000.

[BanMe]

What he got was a fair punishment not a slap on the wrist. You're right aobut his team being the ones suffering though. But explain to me why the Canucks were fined $250,000.

They got fined because the players openly discussed putting a bounty on Moore's head, and the coaching staff did nothing to rectify the situation. At least that's my understanding.

[xnotedgex]

No you're the idiot maybe in the states yes but not in Europe or Canada. I really could care less if many of the stateside NHL teams left the league cause I know there are some cities up here who would love teams. Except for maybe teams like Philly, Detroit etc that have some respect but hell take Phoienix, Florida, Carolina etc and do away with them and their fans. They would would get a lot more support and apreciation up here or in Europe. And as for a thing of the past as long as their is Canada there is hockey it doesn't matter to us if you guys want to watch it or not. Professional hockey will die with Canada. You like your sports we like Hockey thats ok. But hey maybe they could even have some teams representing cities in Sweden and Russia and have some kind of NHL european division that would be a lot better then in some un-apreciating sun-belt city.


wish you would have kept hockey to yourselves in the first place

[xnotedgex]

hockey = life...and I'm yet to go to an actual game. I dunno what'll happen with teh future of hockey, it's really shaky...and things like the bertuzzi incident and a couple of others...the league has to crack down on things like that. I think that fights should never ever ever be banned from the game. It's part of the history of the game and it's really good...when tensions build and you wanna go at it with another guy, you drop the gloves. What's worse are bench-clearing brawls in shitty ass american baseball...why aren't people penalized for that...oh ya, it's baseball, they don't have the balls to do shit cause then they'll stop getting fans. Whatever, hockey needs it's fights...you're just ignorant if you think they should do away with it.

actually baseball players involved in brawls are always suspended and fined...i think when you say "they don't have the balls to do shit cause then they'll stop getting fans", you're really talking about hockey...although hockey doesnt really have any fans to lose

[xnotedgex]

In the hockey world this was dramatic but at the sametime you always expect a play like this to happen



that's exactly what is wrong with hockey...you just expect outbursts and retribution...grow up people...if you did that out on the street instead of in the rink you'd be thrown in jail everytime...people with that mindset need to remind themselves that they're adults, not babies who need to act out everytime they get angry

[FirstPick44]

that's exactly what is wrong with hockey...you just expect outbursts and retribution...grow up people...if you did that out on the street instead of in the rink you'd be thrown in jail everytime...people with that mindset need to remind themselves that they're adults, not babies who need to act out everytime they get angry

Hockey is one of the two biggest international sports, soccer being the other, so i guess you're the part of the minority with your opinion


The NHL needs to realize that hockey will never be mainstream sport in the United States, they cant sanitize the sport any more then it is right now...the Bertuzzi incident was a freak one, and now b/c of that people like you come out of the wood works and bitch about how violent the game is...canadiens dont seem to have a problem with the violence, hockey night canada is proof how die hard the WHOLE country is about the sport

[FirstPick44]

They got fined because the players openly discussed putting a bounty on Moore's head, and the coaching staff did nothing to rectify the situation. At least that's my understanding.

makes you wonder what would've happened to clarke/hitchcock \\about what they said would happend when they next played the sens and what havlat had coming to him, if it all that went down after the bertuzzi incident

[FirstPick44]

No but I agree they shuld all move except the Pens. They used to have great support and had a minni Dynsty. If they coudl just get a new stadium things will be good there again. Plus they will get some killer draft picks this year and next and Malone will be a great player in a few years.

But the pens are still in serious finacial problems and the city of PIT is not allowing them to build a new arena unless they have a certain quota of season ticket holders...thats not going to happen for another 4 or 5 years b/c of the state of their team, fans simply dont want to pay NHL hockey ticket prices to watch an AHL team

The Pens have a bunch of great prospects but they're all hit or miss type of guys...Fluery is gonna be an elite player and Malone could be a decent second liner but its still too early to tell regardless of the type of season he is having this year...I still cant believe Beech isnt playing full time in the NHL b/c he's probably the most talented player in the their system...I got the chance to play with him in juniors, he reminds me alot of ron francis type player...but the pens are definetly shooting themselves in the foot by winning all these games lately, they're just falling further out of the top 3 draft postions and probably miss out on drafting ovechkin

[xnotedgex]

Hockey is one of the two biggest international sports, soccer being the other, so i guess you're the part of the minority with your opinion


The NHL needs to realize that hockey will never be mainstream sport in the United States, they cant sanitize the sport any more then it is right now...the Bertuzzi incident was a freak one, and now b/c of that people like you come out of the wood works and bitch about how violent the game is...canadiens dont seem to have a problem with the violence, hockey night canada is proof how die hard the WHOLE country is about the sport

basketball is much bigger than hockey throughout the world...as is baseball in many parts of the world

and i could care less about grown babies beating each other up on the ice...im just stating that its ridiculous and embarrasing to those individuals...a sport who's main attraction is fighting...what a great concept

[towhatend]

basketball is much bigger than hockey throughout the world...as is baseball in many parts of the world

and i could care less about grown babies beating each other up on the ice...im just stating that its ridiculous and embarrasing to those individuals...a sport who's main attraction is fighting...what a great concept

you must hate boxing then. I'd have to say that hockey is much bigger than baseball around the world. Baseball does have it's hotspots like japan but overall i'd say hockey has a bigger presence. Since when is hockey the only sport with fights in it? Seems to me i could watch any random basketball, football, baseball game and come out of it having seen voilence occur.

[richter915]

that's exactly what is wrong with hockey...you just expect outbursts and retribution...grow up people...if you did that out on the street instead of in the rink you'd be thrown in jail everytime...people with that mindset need to remind themselves that they're adults, not babies who need to act out everytime they get angry
ohhh right right. And in baseball...it's ok when the pitcher gets pissed off an intentionally beans a player?? you my friend, are a moron. You just take the ignorant look at hockey and forget about every other aspect. Maybe you should grow up. And if the players in baseball are fined and suspended...why don't you bash baseball too?

[Snake]

basketball is much bigger than hockey throughout the world...as is baseball in many parts of the world

and i could care less about grown babies beating each other up on the ice...im just stating that its ridiculous and embarrasing to those individuals...a sport who's main attraction is fighting...what a great concept

Ok first thing first who ever said hockeys main attreaction was fighting. Have you ever watched a hockey game? Hockeys main attraction would have to be the skill the players who play the game pocess. Have you ever seen someone like Markus Naslund take it coast to coast or a Brett Hull one timer? Fighting is just a part of hockey that occurs due to the high intensity and physical level the game is played at. Hockey fights are not always two goons going at it for no reason unless there is bad blood between them or their teams, hence the Bertuzzi incident. A lot times when a hockey fight does occur it is a mutal understanding between the two players going at and it is their job to try and get their team pumped up. Or if a tough guy hits a smaller player then he might be challeged by the other teams enforcer like in last nights Vanvouver/LA game when May challeneged whoever hit Kesler. But when they went at it was a mutal understanding, it is Mays role to stick up for his team just as it was the LA players role to hit Kesler and fight whoever sticks up for him, not just some random I am going to fight you tonight sorta thing.
Finally if you bash hockey so much, why the hell are you in this forum?!?

[towhatend]

well said, 100% agreed.

[richter915]

glad to see we have some smart people in here. well said snake.

[xemonite]

snake, you could not say it any better then the way you put it.

[xnotedgex]

ohhh right right. And in baseball...it's ok when the pitcher gets pissed off an intentionally beans a player?? you my friend, are a moron. You just take the ignorant look at hockey and forget about every other aspect. Maybe you should grow up. And if the players in baseball are fined and suspended...why don't you bash baseball too?

no, my friend, you are the moron and that is why you feel the need to change the subject to baseball i assume

im not bashing baseball because that is not the subject of this thread...if you would like to make a baseball thread to discuss such things, please do...try to stay on topic here though...the topic here is, hockey's main attraction is fighting

[xnotedgex]

you must hate boxing then. I'd have to say that hockey is much bigger than baseball around the world. Baseball does have it's hotspots like japan but overall i'd say hockey has a bigger presence. Since when is hockey the only sport with fights in it? Seems to me i could watch any random basketball, football, baseball game and come out of it having seen voilence occur.

i dont hate boxing...i think its boring and idiotic to get in a ring and try to knock the other guy out....seems rather neanderthal to me

and hockey is the only sport where you're guaranteed to see a fight....you throw a punch in any other sport, you are suspended, that's just the way it is and it should be...do you people not understand the meaning of sportsmanship...its a game...its a job, the concept of fighting someone to get your team excited? give me a break...what a lame excuse...there's no way to get pumped up except to attack an opponent...that's the mindset of a 15 year old...and i guarantee you no one is who not a dedicated hockey fan tunes into a game or attends a game hoping to see someone go coast to coast or see someone hit a one timer...that's your hockey-minded way of thinking but the general public doesn't see it that way and they never will? why...because its boring

does hockey have any presence in africa? south america? australia? southeast asia? the caribbean?....just because it is extremely popular in some areas doesnt mean it is popular worldwide like baseball and basketball are

[Snake]

and i guarantee you no one is who not a dedicated hockey fan tunes into a game or attends a game hoping to see someone go coast to coast or see someone hit a one timer...that's your hockey-minded way of thinking but the general public doesn't see it that way and they never will? why...because its boring


Yeah your right I don't exactly go to a game to see someone go coast to coast or hit a nice one timer .....I go to see Markus Naslund rip a gino top self shirt side from the side boards on some un-suspecting goalie!! hahahaha. Who are you to say what we hockey fans go to see at games. There is so much more to the game. Asshole!

[Dion]

i dont hate boxing...i think its boring and idiotic to get in a ring and try to knock the other guy out....seems rather neanderthal to me

and hockey is the only sport where you're guaranteed to see a fight....you throw a punch in any other sport, you are suspended, that's just the way it is and it should be...do you people not understand the meaning of sportsmanship...its a game...its a job, the concept of fighting someone to get your team excited? give me a break...what a lame excuse...there's no way to get pumped up except to attack an opponent...that's the mindset of a 15 year old...and i guarantee you no one is who not a dedicated hockey fan tunes into a game or attends a game hoping to see someone go coast to coast or see someone hit a one timer...that's your hockey-minded way of thinking but the general public doesn't see it that way and they never will? why...because its boring

does hockey have any presence in africa? south america? australia? southeast asia? the caribbean?....just because it is extremely popular in some areas doesnt mean it is popular worldwide like baseball and basketball are

It's a team game. If someone roughs up your superstar player, what are you going to do? Let it slide or beat the crap out of him? In a team game you have to stick up for the players on your team or else you'll start playing for yourself and when that happens the team will be playing terrible. Sticking up for your friends and family isn't the mindset of a 15 year old it is human nature, yes sometimes it does cross the line, and when it does players are penelized and even suspended.

People who aren't hockey fans usually don't attend hockey games at all. I'm not a football fan, so why would i want to attend a football game? To see tackles? or to see someone go the length of the field and score a touchdown? I'd rather see the touchdown, just like any normal person would rather see someone go coast to coast and light the lamp.

I'm sure you know this but people near the equater don't play hockey because there isn't ice there.

[richter915]

no, my friend, you are the moron and that is why you feel the need to change the subject to baseball i assume

im not bashing baseball because that is not the subject of this thread...if you would like to make a baseball thread to discuss such things, please do...try to stay on topic here though...the topic here is, hockey's main attraction is fighting
no, I'm not changing the topic, if you had half a brain you woulda realized I was also pointing out violence in other sports, such as baseball, and how you clearly don't acknowledge that. Hockey's main focus is fighting to the ignorant, since you think that way, you are ignorant...that's my point...I hope you understand that.

If you read the earlier posts, there is a mutual agreement between the players to fight. When someone punches another out of the blue, or when it's an obvious cheapshot that the refs see, then calls are made, players ARE ejected, fined, and suspended. There is tons of sportsmanship and comradarie in hockey, but like I said earlier, you're too ignorant on this issue dude. If anyone, I see you as the neanderthal, because you think that this is all hockey is about. I got into hockey cause I was amazed about the acrobatics of the goalies...and this was in the third grade. I agree, there are better ways to get your team pumped up, but this is what makes hockey different from other sports out there.

[Snake]

If you hate hockey so much then why dont I give you some homework seeing as you havn't done yours. Find me a sport where former players are respected more then hockey....find me a sport with less whinning babies then hockey unlike lets say Allan Iverson or Terrell Owens ??...Find me a sporting series harder to win the the Stanley Cup and find me a any sporting event greater then the 1972 Summit Series ?

[richter915]

Also note how there's less controversy and garbage floating around the world of hockey...other sports have stars in court suspected of rape and murder...not hockey...

[Snake]

Not to mention alligations of stairoids !!