| www.absolutepunk.net/saosin | Information | Music Player The Billboard Southern California quintet Saosin are one of the fastest-growing headliners in rock – earning mainstage slots on the Vans Warped Tour, selling out clubs in a flash, going out with heavyweights like AFI, Avenged Sevenfold, My Chemical Romance and Taking Back Sunday and garnering an ocean of fans who’ve downloaded their songs from MySpace over five million times – all before they’ve released a full-length album.
That will all change on September 26th with the Capitol Records release of their self-titled debut. As your average Saosin fan (and there are legions) will be quick to point out, the wait was a considerable one. “We were waiting until the songs were right,” says frontman Cove Reber with some understatement.
It’s been three years since word of the band’s full-length debut first surfaced, and in that time a lot has changed within the music scene from which they originally emerged and within the band itself.
Seemingly overnight, stylized bands playing strains of melodic post-hardcore have sailed up the pop charts. But for Saosin -- Reber, bassist Chris Sorenson, drummer Alex Rodriguez, and guitarists Beau Burchell and Justin Shekoski -- things have played out a bit differently. During the scene’s ascension, the band’s members have all but shunned the idea of a genre tag or an “image” -- unless, of course, you count the jeans and t-shirts they soak in sweat every night onstage -- and have instead focused their energies on making an album that will live or die strictly on musical merits.
“At first we said we weren’t interested in putting the album out on a major label,” says Burchell. “We wanted to grow first.”
But the band’s sound and its ambition grew tremendously during the recording of their 12-song debut, an album that exceeds even the wildest of expectations. From the dueling guitar crunch of opener “It’s Far Better to Learn” to the nosebleed anthemic heights of lead single “Voices,” the livewire maelstrom of “Follow and Feel” and epic heartstring-puller “You’re Not Alone,” Saosin have created the kind of debut album that announces something indisputably new under rock’s sun.
“It was a long time coming,” says Sorenson, “but finishing the album really put a fire under our asses and we were better for it.”
The initial stages of the band’s debut date back to late 2003 when founding guitarists Burchell and Shekoski and original frontman Anthony Green began playing out, recorded a quick EP, Translating the Name, and embarked on a U.S. tour during which time Green exited the band. To the group’s surprise Translating the Name garnered the band a massive fanbase both online and at their live shows, which grew organically, and quickly.
The band, however, was so hands-off about promoting themselves that Google searches of the band turned up precious little info.
“It was cool if you knew about the band, we weren’t always easy to find,” says Burchell. “But I think that really brought kids together, having to actually make the effort to track us down.”
A collection of rabid fans with Ethernet connections soon began arguing about such pressing matters as how the band’s name was actually pronounced (it’s “say-o-sin”) and what it actually means (Saosin means “small heart” in Chinese. The word comes from a 15th century proverb about fathers telling their sons who are being married off for money not to get emotionally involved with their wives, who could die at any time.)
In the winter of 2005 the revamped Saosin lineup with Sorenson, Rodriguez and new frontman Reber signed to Capitol, released a self-titled EP of demos and live tracks, and began pre-production on their long-awaited full-length debut. As the band recorded various versions of their new songs -- both at their home studios and on a mobile recording unit that they set up on their tour bus – the burden of heavy expectations eventually gave way to genuine excitement.
“I would demo stuff with Chris,” Reber recalls, “and say, ‘This is really good – we can’t not run with this.’”
In turn, the album that Saosin began recording with producer Howard Benson (My Chemical Romance, Head Automatica) this past January -- nearly a full year after they began properly demoing its songs -- would live up to the band’s great expectations, and then some. More importantly, though, it proves that in a world of overnight success at least one group is devoted enough to write songs that are built to last.
“This record is going to take us places,” says Sorenson. “We don’t know exactly where, but it will definitely be an experience getting there.”
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Offline | Saosin recently participated in Causecast.org's State Your Change campaign. Check them out saying the changes they'd like to see in the world, and state your change!
http://www.causecast.org/videos/2727-state-your-change |
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| | Registered User Posts: 2 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 12:43 PM (11/07/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by Jamos4184
Except for the fact that I was AT that show, and Cove was pretty much right on. Not only that, but there are a few times where he does miss his mark, and you can easily tell. |
Cove may use auto tune in the studio but he is spot on in concert I saw him two nights in a row in atlanta and "Come Close" was perfect.... also "Bury your head" on friday night was amazing.... Just because one is a perfectionist in the studio doesn't automatically denounce their stage ability. So Jamos I agree with you bud.......... |
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| | | LAST RESORT! Posts: 291 | Joined: Dec 2007 | | 08:14 PM (10/26/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by xconcretenwater
see, this is a poor example. this clip comes from their live dvd which was recorded and mixed by beau, their guitarist. there is no doubt in my mind that beau took these tracks from the mixing board at the venue back into his studio and edited them- cove's voice included. the right amount of reverb, limiting, and, most of all, auto-tuning can make anyone sound good |
Except for the fact that I was AT that show, and Cove was pretty much right on. Not only that, but there are a few times where he does miss his mark, and you can easily tell. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 102 | Joined: May 2007 | | 06:55 PM (10/26/08)
Offline | | i think love maker translates really well live. it sounded awesome friday night at the palladium |
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| | Registered User Posts: 8 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 12:33 PM (10/23/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by radials
Sure you can. You can AutoTune it all you want. Especially if the stage is large enough and the stage musicians are on in ear monitoring (to keep stage bleed out of the vocal mic).
You don't have to hit the note. You don't even have to be within a full step of the note. If your heart desires, you can take a song in G major and transpose the melody up a 3rd and into a minor scale.
You are correct about it not being able to take away the break up in your voice. Vocal chord distortion is inherent in the tone of the track. However, it can make you hit incredibly high notes. It can also cure shaking to a certain extent.
Sure there is. Quite a bit of it. Whether it be a short slap back, pre-delay, or long hall; it's there.
You're right, it's not a magic tool. However, properly applied reverb can "smooth" out a vocalists performance. A dry wavering vocal (such as a direct off the live board feed) is very unpleasant to listen to. Adding a bit a reverb (and/or short delay) can overlap the wavering pitch to create a pleasant chorus.
The point above has a lot to do with this. A lot of times, if you were to listen to the direct feed from the board of a vocalist singing, it may be difficult to listen to. The delay, reverb, and intonation of the room makes things a lot easier to listen to. This is similar to why string players (violin, cello, viola) rely on room tones to find their intonation (they do not have frets!) ... listening to a direct feed would be harsh.
I will say I do not hate Cove. I think he is pretty decent! Just thought I'd throw in my two cents. |
well im not an EXPERT at all, so ill have to trust what you say. i was simply talking to that guy about autotune, because now days most people throw that word around pretty loosely. if a band doesnt sound exactly the same as the cd live everyone starts going "autotune bla bla, he cant sing without it", which is very un true. sure they might have autotuned it a bit and done other minor things to it, but i am certain that most of if not all of the incredible singing in this dvd comes from his talent. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 50 | Joined: Nov 2007 | | 06:25 PM (10/21/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by blaboy2 the only thing you would be able to do to this is autotune it slightly, but not even as much as you would be able to in the studio. |
Sure you can. You can AutoTune it all you want. Especially if the stage is large enough and the stage musicians are on in ear monitoring (to keep stage bleed out of the vocal mic).
Originally Posted by blaboy2 you still have to be able to hit the note and not mess up. the only thing auto tune does is work with the pitch. |
You don't have to hit the note. You don't even have to be within a full step of the note. If your heart desires, you can take a song in G major and transpose the melody up a 3rd and into a minor scale.
Originally Posted by blaboy2 it does not somehow make you be able to hit incredibly high notes or magically stop your voice from breaking, shaking, or whatever your problem might be. |
You are correct about it not being able to take away the break up in your voice. Vocal chord distortion is inherent in the tone of the track. However, it can make you hit incredibly high notes. It can also cure shaking to a certain extent.
Originally Posted by blaboy2 and as for reverb, i have no idea what you are talking about. there is no reverb what so ever in this live dvd. |
Sure there is. Quite a bit of it. Whether it be a short slap back, pre-delay, or long hall; it's there.
Originally Posted by blaboy2 reverb is not some magic singing tool either, you still must be able to sing. |
You're right, it's not a magic tool. However, properly applied reverb can "smooth" out a vocalists performance. A dry wavering vocal (such as a direct off the live board feed) is very unpleasant to listen to. Adding a bit a reverb (and/or short delay) can overlap the wavering pitch to create a pleasant chorus.
Originally Posted by blaboy2 i saw them live on this tour and he sounded exactly like this video. |
The point above has a lot to do with this. A lot of times, if you were to listen to the direct feed from the board of a vocalist singing, it may be difficult to listen to. The delay, reverb, and intonation of the room makes things a lot easier to listen to. This is similar to why string players (violin, cello, viola) rely on room tones to find their intonation (they do not have frets!) ... listening to a direct feed would be harsh.
I will say I do not hate Cove. I think he is pretty decent! Just thought I'd throw in my two cents. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 1,537 | Joined: Jun 2007 | | 08:00 AM (10/20/08)
Offline | | The new track is safe and pretty boring. I like Saosin, but that's the truth. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 5 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 03:05 AM (10/18/08)
Offline | | Wow every1 needs to realise that there taking a new direction in music and thats a good thing i mean you dont really want there albums to all stay the same. Anyway i thought it was great but i did prefer the more untrained vocals. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 1,069 | Joined: Dec 2004 | | 02:48 AM (10/18/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by xconcretenwater
see, this is a poor example. this clip comes from their live dvd which was recorded and mixed by beau, their guitarist. there is no doubt in my mind that beau took these tracks from the mixing board at the venue back into his studio and edited them- cove's voice included. the right amount of reverb, limiting, and, most of all, auto-tuning can make anyone sound good |
not really into this band but dude can sing. these vocals are not edited, there is no auto tune. the only thing they probably did was play with the mix a little bit |
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| | last first kiss Posts: 5 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 02:34 PM (10/17/08)
Offline | I've only heard the one song offered here, but it sounds a bit bland and generic. Not to offend any fans of course, and I'm speaking from a very limited sample... But it just sounds like twenty other bands I've heard.
Hm, after a second list it's okay. But I'm still not sold. |
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| | Registered User Posts: 2 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 10:10 AM (10/17/08)
Offline | | heres an example of cove vocals, untuned i think he's gotten better |
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| | Registered User Posts: 8 | Joined: Oct 2008 | | 09:59 PM (10/16/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by xconcretenwater
see, this is a poor example. this clip comes from their live dvd which was recorded and mixed by beau, their guitarist. there is no doubt in my mind that beau took these tracks from the mixing board at the venue back into his studio and edited them- cove's voice included. the right amount of reverb, limiting, and, most of all, auto-tuning can make anyone sound good |
eh sorry but i dont think i agree. it sounds like you would like to think you know a lot about this kind of stuff, but i dont think that is the case.
the only thing you would be able to do to this is autotune it slightly, but not even as much as you would be able to in the studio. and autotune does not in any way "make anyone sound good". you still have to be able to hit the note and not mess up. the only thing auto tune does is work with the pitch. it does not somehow make you be able to hit incredibly high notes or magically stop your voice from breaking, shaking, or whatever your problem might be.
and as for reverb, i have no idea what you are talking about. there is no reverb what so ever in this live dvd. even if their was, reverb is not some magic singing tool either, you still must be able to sing.
i saw them live on this tour and he sounded exactly like this video. quit hating and get over it. the dude can sing. |
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| | RAWR! Posts: 251 | Joined: Aug 2008 | | 09:24 PM (10/16/08)
Offline | | saw them live last night, and cove was right on...his vocals have gotten better! |
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| | Registered User Posts: 118 | Joined: Aug 2004 | | 06:25 PM (10/16/08)
Offline | Originally Posted by wiffles if none of think coves vocals have gotten better watch this
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see, this is a poor example. this clip comes from their live dvd which was recorded and mixed by beau, their guitarist. there is no doubt in my mind that beau took these tracks from the mixing board at the venue back into his studio and edited them- cove's voice included. the right amount of reverb, limiting, and, most of all, auto-tuning can make anyone sound good |
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