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12:10 PM on 07/02/13 
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Craig Manning
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"Miles Apart" is 5 minutes long ... never gonna be a single. But it is probably the catchiest, straight up pop-punk, chorus.

Dunno what progression it showcases though.

That's true. I'd say that or "We Will Wait in the Fog" would be the best plays for the mainstream. Maybe "Anchor." I don't know.

And I couldn't see "Miles Apart" (or most of the songs on this record, for that matter) on any of their earlier albums. The guitar work is completely different throughout most of the record. War Paint especially was built around these thick walls of guitar sound that didn't really fluctuate that much. I think the musical arrangements are a lot more nuanced and meticulous this time around, and I think "Miles Apart" is sort of the epitome of that. The guitar parts are way more rhythmic and effects-laden, and I think the songs sound bigger and more arena-oriented as a result. It's obviously cut from a similar cloth as far as songwriting is concerned, but I think the new guys definitely make an impression on the band's sound that wasn't there in the past.

And AJ really isn't writing melodies the same way either. Reach for the Sun was more meandering in its songwriting style. The verses really seemed like stream-of-consciousness writing, meant more to deliver the emotive lyrics than to really stand alone as melodies. And on War Paint, he toned down on that a bit and really focused on bridges instead. I think all my favorite moments of that album are the bridge sections. That's where he put his most emotional lyrics. This time around, the songs have been tightened and honed in a way that I think they lean on the choruses more than anything else. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing will depend on the listener, but I definitely think the writing was streamlined in a more straightforward pop-rock/arena-rock direction.
02:16 PM on 07/02/13 
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Spent some of yesterday walking around town listening to this. Thoughts:

1) The band's biggest problem is monotony ... their songs just all sound very similar ... you can appear anywhere on the album and not know where you are because there's a lack of differentiation within the songs. This isn't that much of a detriment in its own, cause the songs are good ... but when we've had 3 albums and 2 eps of the same stuff ... I would prefer they mix it up a little bit -- I think a different producer would help.

2) AJ's voice sounds like he's been drinking and smoking too much.

3) The "speaking through" a line (compared to opening up and singing) I noticed more than usual.

4) The sequencing is off ... the album is back-heavy.

5) This is my least favorite album by them after ~10 listens. Going back to the earlier EPs I think they showed more inventiveness in their song structures and the melody.

6) AJ should get as much credit as Soupy does for relatable lyrics.

7) "Knives" is the best song Manchester Orchestra never wrote.

Same. My first thought after hearing the record was that it's odd that AJ used to rarely sing with such a raw, raspy sound - pretty much just at the end of "Weathered" and "Work In Progress" - but now does on every single track. It becomes a bit much.
02:22 PM on 07/02/13 
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vivatoto56
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Love his voice like that. Very excited.
02:22 PM on 07/02/13 
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^^^
02:34 PM on 07/02/13 
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SpyKi
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I thought it sounded a bit weak on Catholic Girls. Not too thrilled to hear the whole record sounds like that.
02:34 PM on 07/02/13 
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vivatoto56
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Rough...I mean I haven't heard it so I can't say for sure but the way you describe it...I love Work In Progress and Weathered.

A lot of artists have rough smoking voices...I enjoy it.
02:36 PM on 07/02/13 
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Fourchordwonder
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And I couldn't see "Miles Apart" (or most of the songs on this record, for that matter) on any of their earlier albums. The guitar work is completely different throughout most of the record. War Paint especially was built around these thick walls of guitar sound that didn't really fluctuate that much. I think the musical arrangements are a lot more nuanced and meticulous this time around, and I think "Miles Apart" is sort of the epitome of that. The guitar parts are way more rhythmic and effects-laden, and I think the songs sound bigger and more arena-oriented as a result. It's obviously cut from a similar cloth as far as songwriting is concerned, but I think the new guys definitely make an impression on the band's sound that wasn't there in the past.

This pretty much confirms the effect that I hoped Matt Kennedy would have on TDS's sound, and it makes even more excited to hear the record.
02:36 PM on 07/02/13 
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Borderline blown out?
As long as it doesn't sound like gross nu-metal vocals.
02:42 PM on 07/02/13 
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It sounds like AJ ... after someone took a cheese grater on his chords.

Not a deal breaker by any means, but you can definitely tell the difference compared to the past albums.
Haha, guess I'll just have to wait it out then.
03:01 PM on 07/02/13 
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Jake Jenkins
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I mean, we're talking pretty standard arrangements here. Nothing on the level of what The Graduate were doing within this genre.


RIP
03:04 PM on 07/02/13 
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Jake Jenkins
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I mean those guitar parts ... and early Don't Look Down too (damn did they have talented guitarist) ... I would say were "meticulous" arraignments.
Absolutely. Easily my favorite band in this style of music.
03:07 PM on 07/02/13 
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RockVocalPower
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10000000000% agree that they need a new producer. Leavitt helped them develop their sound, now someone else needs to help them diversify. Things are especially monotonous on this album.
03:08 PM on 07/02/13 
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OldJersey
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God I freaking LOVE The Graduate, I miss em.
03:29 PM on 07/02/13 
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Zac Djamoos
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I'm very excited to hear rougher vocals from AJ.
03:35 PM on 07/02/13 
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vivatoto56
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Just watched that acoustic video of Sins for the first time. Wow.



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