I'm sorry but it's a little suspect that my review of this album posted last Friday has some uncanny similarities. Not just this but there are a few other little observations in the absolutepunk review that are ridiculously similar to those in the sputnik one. Don't believe it? Read for yourself: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=13824
With that said, pretty good review.
I didn't even read your review. I personally think Refused's masterpiece is one of the best produced albums ever and therefore the benchmark that I base unique production on. When I make a claim that the production adds to a piece, that album is immediately what comes to mind. I respect your thoughts and appreciate your comment, but I assure you I didn't even read your review until you just posted this.
first off, nice effort on the review, tom. although, i must say that your avatar is quite annoying (sorry, it just is).
why the hell is the member album rating only at 75%?! that's bullshit. the concept, arrangement, and follow-through of this album is waaaaay above the average band on here. who is bringing that rating curve down?
and the lyrics should be a 10, no doubt in my mind. again, the depth, vocabulary, and themes of the songs' lyrics are on a different level than the average punk-pop band on here. c'mon.
haha thanks man. I was gonna change the avatar soon anyway, then maybe you'll like me. I think the lyrics are awesome too, but a 9 is a ridiculously good score out of 10.
One album that did it for me was Worship and Tribute. The production on that album isn't immaculate in terms of mixing or anything like that, but more in the choice and execution of tones. Every layer on those Pro Tools files sounds like a lot of love went into figuring out which tone would be perfect at any given time. There's also sort of a reverse causality too because Glassjaw are probably the most talented band I can think of at manipulating tone in their composition. "Stuck Pig" uses feedback and mute notes to create pitch content, not just as ambient noise, which is pretty insane for a major label post-hardcore band.
Yeah, that is a great album. The guitar tones are really pretty great. I love way the guitars trickle in the chorus to "Radio Cambodia". It sounds like birds or something.
i think your score is fair, its definitely not as good as vhessiu, but still good. Fire was awesome right away but water took 5 or 6 listens for me to get into because at first i thought the songs were all too slow, but it has grown on me. I'd give fire a 95 and water a 90
See, that's how I felt. The Fire disc was pleasing at first, and while the water album took a little longer to get into, I know that it will stay with me longer than the fire stuff will. The Messenger is amazing though.
I hate to say this... I almost never question the decision someone makes about music, because I realize that there's hardly anything at all that is truly objective, but I feel like if this album really doesn't do anything at all for you, you're simply not giving it enough of a chance. Maybe you're a fan of the old stuff, fine, but you have to at least appreciate the musicianship, the creativity, the lyrics, the melodies... gah, overload. Seriously, though: if you're really not getting this, let it sink in a little bit, then make up your mind.
As a side note, good review. What does everyone think about the idea that it's basically impossible to really review this until we hear air and earth? Amazing as it is, it's still not complete.
Trust me...it IS a hard album to review. It's funny because the comments turned out about how I figured they would. Half of the people love the cd and half of the people hate it. It really is a polarizing album depending on your views of Thrice and well, other different kinds of music.