[birdman]

Originally Posted by Debut_Fin

I'm sure there's been several arguments where "you're intolerant" has been used as kind of a cop-out but overall the tone of this article would suggest that hating racism is just as "intolerant" as hating black people, which I have a huge problem with

I don't think the article makes that point at all. In fact, the bolded statement just illustrates the article's point.

[birdman]

Originally Posted by caveBEAR

How so?

Well, he equates a Christian organization's ire of being labeled a "hate group" as a "cop-out". Forgetting that there was a shooting there as a direct result of said designation.

[birdman]

Originally Posted by Debut_Fin

If you establish an organization around denying a group of people their civl rights, "hate group" probably isn't an inappropriate label. Most people fight to end that kind of intolerance without murdering anybody. Walking into a building and shooting someone is murder and it's wrong. Opposing (or "not tolerating") their intolerance and bigotry, however, is not something I see as hypocritical

I'm sorry I disagree, otherwise The Brandy Campaign would be considered a hate group. Any group opposing drug use, groups that are either pro or anti union, PETA, anti-tobacco groups etc would be considered a hate group because their position is to take away or restrict an individual's rights. People are trying to take away my rights or restrict them everyday, are they all bigots?

[birdman]

Originally Posted by David87

It is not the government/public school's responsibility to teach the christian belief system on creation as part of the "science" curriculum. It can be offered in a religion course maybe, but it is not "science", and thus should not be taught in a science class.

Agreed, schools should stick to the facts. Leave faith to the family and the church.