I think it's hilarious that 4+ years after that Tate drama bullshit, they STILL aren't even relevant. They've been at it for what seems like the past 6 years yet aren't even doing anything. Sucks.

Originally Posted by luqmanhakim

Because Tate (all due respect) decides what's "hot" and "not" in this damn "scene" right? You sound like a writer for some Hollywood gossip column.

Maybe I should get a job doing that, I do love forming bitchy opinions of others.

I'm not saying that the Tate incident was going to catapult them into fame or anything. I just think its funny that they've been genre-hopping and really doing ANYTHING to become popular but they're still not. ate best they got was for their fans to vote them onto All Stars past summer. There's just a point, that they've passed, where the music only becomes about becoming rich and famous, like there's no actual desire to create "good" music. But hey, that's what I think and it doesn't even matter because I don't see these guys breaking into the "scene" suddenly after like 8 years of trying so.

You guys are just taking this too seriously, I'm not even trying to argue with fans. i don't like the band, and I don't like the way they run their band. But I dont care if other people do. I have my own opinion of them (that I posted days ago) and Im not saying that it's a fact or anything like that.

Originally Posted by OHismiwiiknis

"taking it seriously" is the whole point in most music. you can listen to Flight of the Conchords for some quality comedy, but that's about it. most other comedy singers lack subtlety, a necessary ingredient for lasting value.

but i digress. the point is that your opinion is invalid, because you use a faulty measuring rod. expecting bands to keep the same sound throughout their careers is a seriously flawed view, and thus, everything you say is invalid as regards music.

hence, your opinion is neither welcome nor acknowledged, because you have no credibility.

good day to you sir!

Really? I think this whole thing is hilarious. Your only response to my opinion is to say its wrong because of these ideas that you have set up? How does one statement about ONE band just cancelout ANY opinion I about music? Who ever said I'm judging every single band on this same thing. The fact is these guys used to attend shows, not even play them, just to sell CDs to people in line. That's not something I like. Another fact is they use to do this at All Time Low shows because they were pop rock. The fact is that they are now not pop rock. No, I cant tell you why they did that. Natural musical growth is one thing, I think these guys changed genres for other reasons. BUT HEY it's my opinion. And there's nothing that makes it more valid than yours. So I don't see why your attempt to "win" this "argument" is to just devalue my own opinion and say I don't have any credibility. Which is, surprise, just your opinion. We're both as credible as the other, if we had any sort of relevance I doubt we would be even having this discussion on a music forum, so I don't really quite see your point of saying that.


Two more facts? I'm not a sir, and I could easily resort to name calling here. I'm done with this conversation because I don't think either of us are gaining anything out of this. So keep your opinion to yourself and I'll keep mine. Everyone wins.

Originally Posted by anthonydarko

Here's an point you can't argue against: This band has never been good, they've gotten nowhere notable in almost a decade of trying and trend hopping, and the fake accounts and delusional fans that come out of the woodwork to defend this shitty band in both news posts and the forums will never not be funny.

Thank you, I thought I was going crazy.