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07:34 AM on 02/07/13
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I honestly don't think that they're going to find a good choice for a hip hop reviewer on the site. A lot of the hip hop heads on here are either narrow minded and fixed on one idea of what hip hop should be, or they're inexperienced trend jumpers who hate being called that.

And I mean this is my favorite faction of people on the site, I'm just being honest. It's hard to find a happy medium and still come out with someone who can write a decent review and be critical/knowledgeable all at the same time


Or they're the best like me but the owner of the site hates them
Quoting a post from a while back here, but I kind of agree with this. If it's someone that everyone who already talks about hip-hop here already knows, then you're just going to have that same group of kids discussing the album in the review thread (as opposed to the album thread) because you're all already friends. Plus you'll have a few other kids interested enough in the record at hand to discuss it as well. I'm not really sure that promotes aggressive change like the site would need in this field. It's hard to find a person to do this because it's a significant commitment, both mentally and time-wise, and I think to be very effective, Drew would probably have to go pick someone off another site (or someone who runs their own blog) who already posts news and reviews regularly. That's kind of a whole different process to go through and it's a lot more intensive than reading a few reviews that are sent to his inbox. The person would need a voice that tells people they know what they're talking about, but isn't so exclusive that it would turn off people who have absolutely no background with the genre. The downside to that is I'm not sure how the already tight-knit faction of people on here discussing hip-hop would respond to someone brand-new and unknown coming onto the site to review the genre. At first it seems like a lose/lose situation so I understand your attitude toward it, but I think it's fair to say that all change at one point seemed impossible to get going.

Also, to respond to another post you made where you mentioned me and how I mainly review pop-punk and you said I had a bad attitude toward hip-hop...not all of that is necessarily untrue but I'm just not invested enough to treat hip-hop like I do other genres. That isn't something exclusionary and I'll explain what I mean. You know this well: Becoming extremely familiar with a genre, to the point that you feel comfortable writing about it and comparing current music to other current music as well as older music, is not something that happens overnight. You have to be an active listener and analyst of that genre for a great deal of time to become effective. I have a few areas where I feel comfortable doing this, whereas in hip-hop I am just a casual listener who mainly takes recommendations instead of seeking out new things. I don't have a bad attitude toward the genre (although in your eyes this mindset might seem like a bad attitude), I just don't have the time to become an active listener of all types of music. Considering I don't get paid to be a music critic, I feel this is a fair justification of my habits. I write about what I feel like writing about when I feel like writing about it. When I was in that Facebook group with Jake, I would listen to most every song or artist he recommended but often I wouldn't even contribute to the discussion. It's just not my area. I may check out a new record and like it a lot (I really enjoyed the Kendrick Lamar record although that feels like an obvious choice to bring up - again, I am a casual listener and only the things that generate the most buzz will usually nab my attention) and just not actively discuss it because I feel out of place doing so. This isn't something that I feel I need to "work on" either - it's just how I am.
07:42 AM on 02/07/13
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There are literally ten users who i see posting about hip hop regularly, who actually know what they're talking about and aren't trying to clog shit up ie Who Is Ryan? and Qud.
Kinda the point of my first paragraph Holly.
07:45 AM on 02/07/13
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You aren't going to get a hip hop blogger to write for a site called absolutepunk tho. They'd dash their cred.
Probably one of the reasons why Jason regrets picking a phone-book name when he was a teenager haha.
08:03 AM on 02/07/13
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I'm not gonna speculate because i dont know, but I'm pretty sure that's why the new site is getting held up.
This is totally wrong.
08:06 AM on 02/07/13
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My namedrop of you was more as an influential writer on the site than someone with a bad mindset or whatever. You're relatively easy to discuss things with and I appreciate your honesty. It really does take a lot to become comfortable enough with a genre.

My problem isnt about ignorance of the staff (i cant force interest in the genre thats dumb). Its the mindset that mainstream music is bad or lesser than the music the site covers. With that mindset and the fact that the influential people post those ignorant opinions for everyone to see, were not gonna see a lot of progress
Yeah. I mean I have been applying for a multitude of jobs that involve covering much more mainstream music at much larger publications so I hope I'm not part of that group.
02:28 PM on 02/10/13
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This doesn't really have anything to do with hip hop, but seeing as it turned into ways to improve the site, may as well chuck my opinion in.

I'd like to see more features/editorials/whatever about older music. There's lots of people on this site that just don't listen to anything pre-90s. And it's not just ignorant pop punk kids, there are some people on here who generally like really good music, but I never ever see them talk about anything 'old'.

I'd like to see some sort of weekly feature where different staff take a sub-genre of music, or a specific time period, or a label or whatever and talk about some great bands or albums. The Thursday discussions did that, but it turned into, 'best early 2000s Victory records bands!!!', which has been done to death on this site. I'd like to see features about the best pre-war blues music, or the best anarcho punk bands of the 70s, or even something much more accessible, like best Motown artists.

That way, you're actually introducing people to new artists, rather than re-hashing the same old stuff. Kids who like The Wonder Years would probably dig Descendents and Adolescents if they were shown them. People who were big on Frank Ocean would probably love Curtis Mayfield or Sam Cooke. Japandroids fans would probably love The Stooges or The Replacements. I think introducing people to new, older music they may not hear otherwise would be a really good thing.

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I'd love a weekly feature focusing on something like that.
does anybody want to come and do this for made of chalk?
02:40 PM on 02/10/13
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he is
02:41 PM on 02/10/13
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wanna hit me here: thomas at madeofchalk.com ?
02:47 PM on 02/10/13
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when's this deal supposed to go down? I'm swamped until Mid April so I can't fully commit to anything yet
There's no timetable. You can start it whenever. The site is about to launch but it doesn't need to be content from day one. Just email me and we can discuss.
03:25 PM on 02/10/13
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MoC already making improvements.
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